Documentation of ISO 9001:2000 especially on the six procedures

[Raffy]

Hi,
I'm currently updating our documents especially on the six procedures. For example, Internal Quality Audit, We have a previous document for this. Since we are upgrading into the 2000 version. Are we going to have a new set of documents, that is the documents for the 2000 would be revision 0? Or the previous document bearing with revision 4 would be revised and it would likewise bear a revison 5? Please comment.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Raffy

 

[Marc]

It really depends upon how you want to look at it. If the subject is the same, a revision is probably easier than obsoleting the document and starting a new one.

The 2 clients I had which have undergone the 2000 'upgrade' only had minor revisions to a few procedures and a rewrite of the quality manual. All was done in under a week.

Are you sure you're not going too far?

 

[Ross Simpson]

Have to agree with Marc. I'm "re-doing" our system docs now and I believe the easiest and cost effective way is, that if you have a good working document, just make your minor changes and do a rev-roll. Also shows continuous improvement!

As to the QM (we call it the Business System Manual), with a few "tweeks" and several additions, I just did an index/matrix, with all "shalls" in sequence, referencing what section of the Manual they are found in, and VOILA, no big deal.

 

[Marc]

-> we call it the Business System Manual

Rah! I absolutely HATE having the 'Q' word thrown in everywhere. I also prefer to call them Business Systems Manual(s) or even just 'Systems Manual'.

 

[juliedrys]

Indeed. We encourage folks to refer to the system as the Business Management System rather than the Quality Managment System. This sometimes (not always) gets the attention of folks who cannot fathom the thought of anything titled "Quality".

I just finished teaching Day 1 of our new 9000:2000 Transition Training. I have been studying this standard for quite some time, reading and writing and analyzing and discussing, and what most frustrates me about ISO is also what I love most about it: my understanding of the Standard is always incomplete.

Julie

 

[Raffy]

Hi everyone,
Thank you for the replies. I've started re-do some of our documents. There are some documents that needs to be merge as one. As for the Quality Manual, I'm still tweaking it and we still need to review some of the revisions that I made. We talk about it at least twice a week. Continous Improvement was discussed here, Do I still need to create a procedure for continuous improvement? What could be the difference between Continual Improvement and Continuous Improvement?
best regards,
Raffy

 

[Marc]

-> Do I still need to create a procedure for continuous
-> improvement? What could be the difference between
-> Continual Improvement and Continuous Improvement?

Read through Corrective & Preventive Action
and Corrective vs Preventive - Separate Procedures?

You're in for some fun!

Edited 27 October 2001

I can't re-lookup and change every old link to posts in the old forums. Most of them *should* still be there. If you want to find the post in the New forums, if the link to the thread in the old forums works (most of them should...), look at the thread (topic) title and what forum it is in. Then back here in the New forums - go to that forum and look for the thread topic title - OR - do a Search for the key words from Title (Note - you can search entire threads or just the 'subject' or 'title' - if you look in the Forums search page you'll see the options.

Call me lazy...

If you want to find the post in the New forums, if the link to the thread in the old forums works (most of them should...), look at the thread (topic) title and what forum it is in. Then back here in the New forums - go to that forum and look for the thread topic title - OR - do a Search for the key words from Title (Note - you can search entire threads or just the 'subject' or 'title' - if you look in the Forums search page you'll see the options).