Documentation System Requirements and Document Format procedure - 3.0 Reference

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KELVIN

#1
Hi All,

Need your expertised to advise that what should be the criteria for the written procedure under 3.0 Reference.

Question:

1) Is there a ISO requirement for all List documents and/or forms supporting must link to the written procedure ? If yes, what's ISO clauses?

2) If the forms are still valid & used for other procedure, but not stated inside the particular written procedure.Should we put this reference form/procedure inside procedure?

3) During ISO audit, is this considered one of the observation which the reference forms were written on 3.0 Reference, but not link to the written procedure 9.0.


:thanx:

Kelvin
 
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Ashwani

#2
Re: Document format procedure - 3.0 Reference

Hi All,

Need your expertised to advise that what should be the criteria for the written procedure under 3.0 Reference.

Question:

1) Is there a ISO requirement for all List documents and/or forms supporting must link to the written procedure ? If yes, what's ISO clauses?

2) If the forms are still valid & used for other procedure, but not stated inside the particular written procedure.Should we put this reference form/procedure inside procedure?

3) During ISO audit, is this considered one of the observation which the reference forms were written on 3.0 Reference, but not link to the written procedure 9.0.


:thanx:

Kelvin

plz clarify a bit more to let me u/stand ur reqmt better
 

Colin

Quite Involved in Discussions
#3
Re: Document format procedure - 3.0 Reference

Kelvin, you seem to be suggesting that there is a pre-prescribed format for procedures in ISO 9001 i.e. 9 sections of which 1 of them (section 3) is called references. Is that your understanding.

If so, you are mistaken. It is entirely your choice as to how you layout your procedures (unless you have a prescribed 'in-house' style that you must conform to). There does not have to be a 'references' section!
 
K

KELVIN

#4
Re: Document format procedure - 3.0 Reference

Kelvin, you seem to be suggesting that there is a pre-prescribed format for procedures in ISO 9001 i.e. 9 sections of which 1 of them (section 3) is called references. Is that your understanding.

If so, you are mistaken. It is entirely your choice as to how you layout your procedures (unless you have a prescribed 'in-house' style that you must conform to). There does not have to be a 'references' section!
Thanks Colpart.Your are right. We do have prescribed in-house procedure format which reference document/form must link to procedure.
:thanx:
 

Stijloor

Staff member
Super Moderator
#5
Re: Document format procedure - 3.0 Reference

plz clarify a bit more to let me u/stand ur reqmt better
Ashwani,

For the benefit of our (older;)) Fellow Covers that did not grow up with text-messaging language, could you please translate this for us?

Stijloor.
 

CarolX

Super Moderator
Super Moderator
#6
Re: Document format procedure - 3.0 Reference

Ashwani,

For the benefit of our (older;)) Fellow Covers that did not grow up with text-messaging language, could you please translate this for us?

Stijloor.
:topic: And please remember this forum is visit by folks from all over the world. And English is a second language for many users. Textspeak doesn't translate very well.
:thanx:
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#8
Re: Document format procedure - 3.0 Reference

Thanks Colpart.Your are right. We do have prescribed in-house procedure format which reference document/form must link to procedure.
:thanx:

It sounds like your internal procedure is based on the common format described in the ISO 10013 (I think that is the right number?). This was just a guide and the format was not mandatory.
 
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