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Documented process for type and extent of control

batteryguy

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Would anyone be willing to share their documented process for type and extent of control? I'm having a difficult time understanding how to document this process.

I think we have all of the systems in place for this - supplier monitoring, supplier selection processes, material inspections, etc.
 
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John Broomfield

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Would anyone be willing to share their documented process for type and extent of control? I'm having a difficult time understanding how to document this process.

I think we have all of the systems in place for this - supplier monitoring, supplier selection processes, material inspections, etc.
Batteryguy,

Why do you consider “type and extent of control” to be a process?

Each of the processes that you have determined are essential to the success of your system will include the appropriate control measures.

If you analyze how these processes are currently resourced and controlled (so they are effective) then you’ve already got this requirement covered.

For new processes then process design or quality planning will determine the type and extent of control necessary.

John
 

batteryguy

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Thanks John,

8.4.2.1 of the IATF standard states that an org must have a documented process to identify outsourced processes and to select the types and extent of controls used to verify conformity of externally provided products, processes, and services to internal and external customer requirements.

To clarify my question, how is this different than other processes we already have in place for supplier selection, supplier monitoring, etc.?
 

Golfman25

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Just spitballing. That's basically supplier selection and monitoring stuff. You might then refer to your APQP stuff where you'll set parameters for suppliers to meet.
 
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Thanks John,

8.4.2.1 of the IATF standard states that an org must have a documented process to identify outsourced processes and to select the types and extent of controls used to verify conformity of externally provided products, processes, and services to internal and external customer requirements.

To clarify my question, how is this different than other processes we already have in place for supplier selection, supplier monitoring, etc.?
That's difficult for us to say from where we are sitting, but typically the FMEA and Control Plan should take care of this.
 

AMIT BALLAL

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Thanks John,

8.4.2.1 of the IATF standard states that an org must have a documented process to identify outsourced processes and to select the types and extent of controls used to verify conformity of externally provided products, processes, and services to internal and external customer requirements.

To clarify my question, how is this different than other processes we already have in place for supplier selection, supplier monitoring, etc.?
If the processes of supplier selection and supplier monitoring fulfills the requirements of clause 8.4.2.1, then no need to prepare a separate documented process.
 
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