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This topic has come up before but it looks like it has been a few years back. I also have a new spin on it. We have an internal procedure which allows for certain equipment to have the calibration start date extended upon issuing of the equipment in service. Examples are Pressure gages, Dew Point Meters, flukes..etc. The purpose is to compensate for long lead times for calibration by outside 3rd parties. Like many posts here, we keep spares meters or gages which we issue when expired meters or gages are pulled out of service. We store these in locked and controlled environments, and the type of equipment should not change or degrade during storage. This has been no issue as an AS 9100 registered organization.
However, we are now delving into NADCAP, and specifically NADCAP for heat treat and MTL testing (ISO 17025) in support of heat treat. I am new to NADCAP and not an expert. We have an M&P Engineer who has worked in a NADCAP enviornement who insists that this practice is not allowed by NADCAP. According to our new expert, NADCAP AC7101, AC7102, AC7006, and ISO 17025 all supercede AS9100. It is their interpretation that the requirements are more stringent than AS9100, and as a result the practice of extending the start date for calibrated equipment is strictly prohibitied per ISO 17025 and the NADCAP standards.
Needless to say my inexperience with NADCAP requirements, and this individuals interpretation of NADCAP requirements, are in conflict with our established AS9100 QMS.
We are really struggling with how to roll all of these new NADCAP and ISO 17025 requirements into our exisitng AS9100 established organization. My fear is that this individual is basically interpreting a need to have parallel quality management systems for AS9100, ISO 17025, and NADCAP. It does not make since to me that this is the intent of all these standards.
I am hoping the mebers of this community can give me some insight on the acceptability of this practice in terms of NADCAP/17025.
I do plan on obtaining outside training to bridge my lack of experience, if anyone has a good recommendation on where to obtain that training/education in the Los Angeles area it would be appreciated.
However, we are now delving into NADCAP, and specifically NADCAP for heat treat and MTL testing (ISO 17025) in support of heat treat. I am new to NADCAP and not an expert. We have an M&P Engineer who has worked in a NADCAP enviornement who insists that this practice is not allowed by NADCAP. According to our new expert, NADCAP AC7101, AC7102, AC7006, and ISO 17025 all supercede AS9100. It is their interpretation that the requirements are more stringent than AS9100, and as a result the practice of extending the start date for calibrated equipment is strictly prohibitied per ISO 17025 and the NADCAP standards.
Needless to say my inexperience with NADCAP requirements, and this individuals interpretation of NADCAP requirements, are in conflict with our established AS9100 QMS.
We are really struggling with how to roll all of these new NADCAP and ISO 17025 requirements into our exisitng AS9100 established organization. My fear is that this individual is basically interpreting a need to have parallel quality management systems for AS9100, ISO 17025, and NADCAP. It does not make since to me that this is the intent of all these standards.
I am hoping the mebers of this community can give me some insight on the acceptability of this practice in terms of NADCAP/17025.
I do plan on obtaining outside training to bridge my lack of experience, if anyone has a good recommendation on where to obtain that training/education in the Los Angeles area it would be appreciated.
