Does Anyone have a copy of Boeing's D1-9000?

gard2372

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Our supplier quality manual states that all suppliers of critical components and/or processes be supplied to us by ISO Certified or equivalent/compliant suppliers. Many of our supliers meet those requirements. One of the machining suppliers whom our purhcasing department is looking at is not ISO certified nor compliant. I spoke with the machining center's QM and he said they are a D1-9000 Boeing Certified supplier.

I do not know the Boeing standard so I went to the website to look for it and I found D1-9000-1 AQS tools but not D1-9000. I did find out that in 2001 Boeing swithced over from D1-9000 to AS9100 even though some of the standard refers to D1-9000. If this is the case and the machining supplier QMS is based on D1-9000 does it match the elements of the ISO 9001:2000 standard or are there some gaps? (They mailed me a copy of there QMS which i will review and compare to the ISO standard).

*Does anyone have a copy of D1-9000 or know where I can get one?
*Is D1-9000 compliant with the ISO 9001 or AS9100 standard?
*Are there some other areas of the supplier's QMS I need to look into?
 
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If I were you I would save myself the trouble. What system they use to handle their QMS is not your concern. Specify - in detail - what you need, and what is quality critical, with regards to items you purchase and let the supplier show that their system do meet your requirements. If there is a gap they should adjust their system to close this gap. You should not be wasting your time proving that their system is adequate. :bigwave:
 

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gard2372 said:
Our supplier quality manual states that all suppliers of critical components and/or processes be supplied to us by ISO Certified or equivalent/compliant suppliers. Many of our supliers meet those requirements. One of the machining suppliers whom our purhcasing department is looking at is not ISO certified nor compliant. I spoke with the machining center's QM and he said they are a D1-9000 Boeing Certified supplier.

I do not know the Boeing standard so I went to the website to look for it and I found D1-9000-1 AQS tools but not D1-9000. I did find out that in 2001 Boeing swithced over from D1-9000 to AS9100 even though some of the standard refers to D1-9000. If this is the case and the machining supplier QMS is based on D1-9000 does it match the elements of the ISO 9001:2000 standard or are there some gaps? (They mailed me a copy of there QMS which i will review and compare to the ISO standard).

*Does anyone have a copy of D1-9000 or know where I can get one?
*Is D1-9000 compliant with the ISO 9001 or AS9100 standard?
*Are there some other areas of the supplier's QMS I need to look into?
D1-9000 was closer to the 1994 version of ISO 9000 with additional aviation requirements. I don't have a copy of the standard, but I do have a checklist.
 

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gard2372

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Gert Sorensen said:
If I were you I would save myself the trouble. What system they use to handle their QMS is not your concern. Specify - in detail - what you need, and what is quality critical, with regards to items you purchase and let the supplier show that their system do meet your requirements. If there is a gap they should adjust their system to close this gap. You should not be wasting your time proving that their system is adequate. :bigwave:
Thanks Everyone for the direction. :applause:

I had planned on telling the supplier what our requirements were and specify that they meet them within the specifics of our Purchase Order. I just wanted to see what the D1-9000 standard covered and compare it to the ISO standard, but all I could find was the D1-9000-1 AQS "tools". I have that one but not the outdated D1-9000.

Thanks AL for the matrix. I can use that. :agree1:

Rob
 
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