Does ISO 17025 Cover the elements in MIL-STD-45662A?

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George321

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Hi I was wondering if the requirements in MIL-STD-4662A are covered in the ISO 17025.

Any type of clarification will be appreciated.

George
 
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Hershal

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Re: Does ISO 17025 Cover the elements needed in MIL-STD-45662A?

I moved the thread as the topic specifically addressed ISO/IEC 17025.
 

Hershal

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Re: Does ISO 17025 Cover the elements needed in MIL-STD-45662A?

The short answer is no.....

The extended answer is because MIL-STD-45662A was developed by the U.S. military for its own purposes and environment, while ISO/IEC 17025 was develope internationally, as a more general management Standard.

However, ANSI/NCSL Z540-1-1994 Part II includes the text of 45662A, and the new ANSI/NCSL Z540.3-2006 includes most of the requirements, though not the same verbage.

Hope this helps.

Hershal
 
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George321

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Thanks for the clarification. But does that mean that ANSI/NCSL Z540-1-1994 does not cover the elements found in the ISO Guide 25?

Im assuming that 17025:2005 (which is based on Guide 25) and ANSI/NCSL Z540-1(rev2002) (which is based on MIL-STD-45662A) have differnt backgrounds but since they talk about calibration there is some elements that overlap and some elements that are perculiar to each standard.

Now does the new ANSI/NCSL Z540.3-2006 contains all the elements of ISO 17025 and ANSI/NCSL Z540-1 ?

Let me know if my justifications are correct.

Thanks!
 

Hershal

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There are a lot of similarities between Z540.3 and ANS/ISO/IEC 17025:2005.....however, they are not quite the same.....some requirements in 17025 are more detailed than in Z540.3.....Z540.3 also has most of the requirements of MIL-STD-45662A, where 17025 does not.....17025 does include the QMS requirements of G25 with additional detail and a couple of extra requirements.....PLUS it adds the technical evaluation side that G25 did NOT have.....

Z540-1 is a combination of ISO Guide 25 and MIL-STD-45662A, both nearly word for word.....and both MIL-STD-45662A and ISO Guide 25 are long since retired and put out to pasture.....even though they still show up in legacy contracts.....

Also, 17025 covers test labs also.....Z540 is calibration also.....a fair part of the reason for including some requirements and not others, with respect to commonality.....

I don't have a definitive date for the retirement of Z540-1 yet, I will get that at NCSLI and pass it along.....

Hope this helps.

Hershal
 
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