Does it make sense to hold both ISO 9001 & TS 16949 registrations?

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cheri61

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First, i'd like to commend this site, it has been very helpful since i've discovered it back @ the begining of this year.
To my question:
we currently qualify & hold TS 16949, ISO 9001, ISO 14001, in addition to some UL, ULc type stuff.:confused:
our ISO 9001 has expired, though we are through the re-registration process, we're just waiting for the certificate.
Since TS has everything of ISO 9001, would it be prudent to continue holding both registrations? when customers inquire about the expired 9001, & realize we are current w/ TS, they state that is sufficate for what they need?
 
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Ted Schmitt

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Re: Does it make sense to hold both registrations, ISO 9001 & TS 16949?

cheri61 said:
First, i'd like to commend this site, it has been very helpful since i've discovered it back @ the begining of this year.
To my question:
we currently qualify & hold TS 16949, ISO 9001, ISO 14001, in addition to some UL, ULc type stuff.:confused:
our ISO 9001 has expired, though we are through the re-registration process, we're just waiting for the certificate.
Since TS has everything of ISO 9001, would it be prudent to continue holding both registrations? when customers inquire about the expired 9001, & realize we are current w/ TS, they state that is sufficate for what they need?
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IMHO, there is no reason to maintain both TS and ISO 9k.... just maintain TS... there was a thread recently about this....
 
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cheri61

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Re: Does it make sense to hold both registrations, ISO 9001 & TS 16949?

Thanks Ted, i did a search, but it revealed nothing. do you have a date referance?
 
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tyker

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Re: Does it make sense to hold both registrations, ISO 9001 & TS 16949?

It depends on your scope. TS only covers automotive. If you're supplying outside the automotive industry you may need ISO 9001 for the non-auto product. Some customers may accept that your TS registration demonstrates that you have a system that meets their requirements, others may not.
 
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cheri61

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Re: Does it make sense to hold both registrations, ISO 9001 & TS 16949?

Thanks for the input tyker...The scope we have stated on the TS does not specify automotive.
“Design, manufacture & fabrication of custom designed components from expandable resins"
This covers, both components on a vehicle, dunnage or packaging components. As I understand it, we only need to apply the details that are beyond 9001 only to auto component processes, but ensure other product operations comply with the 9001 aspects.
 
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Helmut Jilling

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cheri61 said:
First, i'd like to commend this site, it has been very helpful since i've discovered it back @ the begining of this year.
To my question:
we currently qualify & hold TS 16949, ISO 9001, ISO 14001, in addition to some UL, ULc type stuff.:confused:
our ISO 9001 has expired, though we are through the re-registration process, we're just waiting for the certificate.
Since TS has everything of ISO 9001, would it be prudent to continue holding both registrations? when customers inquire about the expired 9001, & realize we are current w/ TS, they state that is sufficate for what they need?
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A very few non-automotive customers want TS companies to carry ISO 9001 certification as well. For some customers, it may be they don't understand. With others, it may be that while TS covers all the ISO 9K requirements, the products sampled are limited by scope to automotive. So, non-automotive parts never get audited.

As you indicated, must customers are fine with that.
 
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