Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020?

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ForensicsMatt

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Hello All,

I am trying to ascertain whether the UK Government are using ISO 17025 or 17020 or both for their forensic labs, I believe that they may be using both as indiciated by the House of Commons Science and Tech Committee, I have a link if needed (you'll have to pm me for it as my lack of posts does not allow links to be posted).


Would anyone know which is being used, if either or both and if so, would anyone know the rough outline of 17020 as I have had no expereince with it previously.

Thanks again

Forensic Matt
 
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Ajit Basrur

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Re: Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020 ?

Hello All,

I am trying to ascertain whether the UK Government are using ISO 17025 or 17020 or both for their forensic labs, I believe that they may be using both as indiciated by the House of Commons Science and Tech Committee, I have a link if needed (you'll have to pm me for it as my lack of posts does not allow links to be posted).


Would anyone know which is being used, if either or both and if so, would anyone know the rough outline of 17020 as I have had no expereince with it previously.

Thanks again

Forensic Matt
Yes the UKAS adopts both ISO 17025 and ISO 17025 as evident from LAB 30 Application of ISO/IEC 17025 for Asbestos Sampling and Testing document - http://www.ukas.com/library/Technic...nical-Articles/Pubs-List/LAB30 Edition 2.pdf

Did I understand your question correctly ?
 

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ForensicsMatt

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Re: Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020 ?

Ajit, forgive my ignorance, I assume for labs to become ISO accredited they have to apply to UKAS correct?
 

Ajit Basrur

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Re: Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020 ?

Ajit, forgive my ignorance, I assume for labs to become ISO accredited they have to apply to UKAS correct?
For UK, yes :)

The United Kingdom Accreditation Service is the sole national accreditation body recognised by the British government to assess the competence of organisations that provide certification, testing, inspection and calibration services.

Refer the UKAS page that mentions ISO 17020 and ISO 17025 - http://www.ukas.com/services/accreditation-services/Accreditation-Services.asp

Wikipedia reference-linkUnited_Kingdom_Accreditation_Service
 
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ForensicsMatt

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Re: Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020 ?

This puts me on the right track, thanks again, if anyone has any more infor feel free to post :)
 
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ForensicsMatt

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Re: Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020 ?

Reg, just found that, am scdouring the UKAS site for more info, thanks :)
 
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Re: Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020 ?

Ajit, forgive my ignorance, I assume for labs to become ISO accredited they have to apply to UKAS correct?
No - a lab would seek accreditation, through a service provider such as Camden BRI (no affiliation) who, in turn, are accredited by UKAS, under ISO/IEC 17025.
 
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ForensicsMatt

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Re: Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020 ?

So let me see if this is correct (again forgive my ignorance).

I have a lab that I want to accredit to 17025/17020, I contact a company (such as Camden BRI), who will accredit the lab, and in turn CAMDEM BRI are Accredited by UKAS as being suppliers of accreditation services?
 

Hershal

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Re: Does United Kingdom (UK) follow ISO 17025 and ISO 17020 ?

So let me see if this is correct (again forgive my ignorance).

I have a lab that I want to accredit to 17025/17020, I contact a company (such as Camden BRI), who will accredit the lab, and in turn CAMDEM BRI are Accredited by UKAS as being suppliers of accreditation services?
There are two different standards in discussion here.

ISO/IEC 17025 is for laboratories. ISO/IEC 17020 is for inspection bodies.

For a UK laboratory, it is the norm to seek accreditation through UKAS, as that is the UK's national accrediting body (AB). The accreditation to ISO/IEC 17025 must be granted by an accrediting body only.

Now, if the laboratory chooses to use a different AB from a different country, they can do that. The AB must be a Signatory to ILAC or a Recognized Region, and the laboratory will have to state to the AB why they are seeking accreditation from the AB instead of the National body.

Hope this helps.
 
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