Don't be a mooch! Buy a cup of coffee!

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mikoyan

#21
I realize that most routers come with a manual, but it wouldn't hurt the folks that sell wireless routers to remind people about encrypting them.

I'm of the school that if people aren't going to take the steps to encrypt their WiFi connections, then it shouldn't be illegal for someone to use it. Although, I can see why there would be the law because technically it does steal bandwidth from the person. However there are simple steps that can be taken to prevent unauthorized use. You don't even need to add a password. You can just set it up so that only known MAC addresses can use it.

If a restaurant advertisings "Free WiFi", I don't see how they can stop people from using it. Unless they put "Free WiFi - Customers only".
 
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JerryStem

#22
I'm a certified computer geek, but when I set my hi-speed & wireless up at home last year, I was a newbie in that department.

Both my router & wireless access point came with very nice manuals on the installation CD, and easy step by step instructions. I printed them both out before the adventure & read through them once or twice, then it went like clockwork. (Ok, except for when the router didn't see the WAP because I still had a part of ZoneAlarm running in the background, blocking it. Then Zoomtown's customer service clued me in...)

My company doesn't seem to care about their encryption because they aren't worried about someone using their signal for internet access. Again, wish I lived closer.......:yes:

Jerry
"Free access" means free access IMHO.
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#23
Wes Bucey said:
An imperfect analogy: If you continually walk across a neighbor's lawn and neighbor says nothing, after a period of time (different in every state), you will have created an "easement" and he can no longer deny you access.

If owner says, "You can do this until I say, 'STOP!'" then he has protected himself against "prescriptive easement."

In this instance, the owner of the WI FI has said "Stop!" The guy cutting actoss his land keeps doing it, then the guy can be arrested for trespass.

Yes, you make a good point. If the owner has said "Stop," it is no longer a simple, open situation. I just don't think the hacking laws should apply in this case.

PS: For the record, I do have my own WiFi at home, and when traveling, have several accounts, and buy a coffee when needed. However, sometimes I have to go onto a borrowed network when no better option exists. It never occurs to me that might be illegal.
 
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