ECR?s (Engineering Change Requests) in Engineering?

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ECR´s (Engineering Change Requests) in Engineering?

Hi all
I´m going to share a doubt, regarding the ECR´s - Awaiting to hear your valuable opinion.

I´m clear about how to raise an ECR, but dont´know how to apply this in an Engineering process. In the development of the Engineering, are produced a lot of drawings ,spec, Data sheets, isometrics, etc. And normally before a drawing is released for construction,passed for several revisions, verification, crosss-checking process, etc.

The Engineering department has several departments like:
Electrical, Civil, mechanic,etc.

the question is:

If in the process of revision or after a drawing is released suppose Electrical needs a change in a drawing belonging to Mech, area, well normally this is required by mean of commented hardcopy in a cross.checking sessionand asking this by email, a design review session ,but never is raised an ECR. Dont´want to imagine raising a lot of ECR´s for all changes from all the departments.

How to manage, this? in Engineering, when exactly is needed to do it.
And, is it a normal and useful practice in Eng. because the high volumes in changes?

for my QMS I have the DCR process.
Thanks
 
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somashekar

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Re: ECR´s in Engineering?

ECR is the baby of the design and development change process.
So when your mechanical, electrical, structural, plumbing, etc design and drawings have not been reviewed well, and verified by many simulation tools that are available, you will come across more babies ... I mean ECR's.
If in the process of revision or after a drawing is released suppose Electrical needs a change in a drawing belonging to Mech, area, well normally this is required by mean of commented hardcopy in a cross.checking sessionand asking this by email, a design review session ,but never is raised an ECR.
If this is in a pre design release, it needs to happen as many times as clarifications arise, then why are talking about ECR ??
 
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QAMTY

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Re: ECR´s in Engineering?

Thanks Somashekar

You mean the normal practice to ask a change to other department
is by mean of an ECR and filling out the form?

Is it the same process as to markup a drawing asking a change of a drawing no filling out forms?

could it be in both ways?

Thanks for your clarification.
 

somashekar

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Re: ECR´s in Engineering?

You mean the normal practice to ask a change to other department
is by mean of an ECR and filling out the form?
I take it that the design is released for construction.
Yes, the form (if designed with thought) helps to capture all the other associated changes that are felt needed with the approval of this change.
Is it the same process as to markup a drawing asking a change of a drawing no filling out forms?
It is not the same. Here you are not creating the required interaction with all concerned activities about how this change will effect them. In this approach, you may go about facing a lot of DO and UNDO situations depending upon the complexity of the change, losing on time, money and work quality. Most undesirable and just not what the QMS intends.
 
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QAMTY

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Re: ECR´s in Engineering?

Thansk again somashekar

OK, so would be advisable to raise ECR´s ony after the Construction release
more stable document? less likely to changes, thus less paperwork?
not in the preliminary stages?

The markup method, not good, very useful info would be lost

Regards
 
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