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Eligibility of Tier 2 supplier of forged parts to get TS 16949:2002 certificate

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ralphsulser

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You can pursue TS16949:2002 certification of your QMS if you are in the automotive supply chain. Do your products end up in on road vehicles?
Off road vehicles are not eligible. Is your customer requiring you to get TS system certified?
 
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vanputten

#3
Do you have a formal request, to become TS certified, from an automotive customer?

Regards,

Dirk
 

wak125

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#4
Do you have a formal request, to become TS certified, from an automotive customer?

Regards,

Dirk
No we do not have nay formal request from OEM or Tier-1 so far, We are forging automotive parts, which further machined and then assembled into the automotive vehicles
 

Howard Atkins

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#6
As you describe yourself you are eligible, the tier is irrelevant
IAOB (FAQs)

1.
Applicability/Scope (Revised July 2003. Revisions in blue type)

Question: Which Organizations can obtain Certification/Registration to ISO/TS 16949:2002?

Answer: Any Organization in the Automotive Supply Chain meeting the criteria below can obtain Certification to ISO/TS 16949:2002

1.
Scope 1.1 General
- This Technical Specification, in conjunction with ISO 9001:2000, defines the quality management system requirements for the design and development, production and, when relevant, installation and service of automotive-related products.
- This Technical Specification is applicable to sites of the organization where production and/or service parts specified by the customer are manufactured.
2.
"Automotive" shall be understood as including the following:
- Cars, Trucks (Light, Medium and Heavy), Buses, Motorcycles
3.
"Automotive" shall be understood to exclude the following:
- Industrial, Agricultural, Off-Highway (Mining, Forestry, Construction, etc.)

4.
3.1.11 "Site"
- Location at which value added manufacturing processes occur.
5.
“Manufacturing”
- Process of making or fabricating:
*
Production materials
*
Production or service parts
*
Assemblies, or
*
Heat treating, welding, painting, plating, or other finishing services
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#7
No we do not have nay formal request from OEM or Tier-1 so far, We are forging automotive parts, which further machined and then assembled into the automotive vehicles

Well, if your parts go into OEM automotive vehicles, (not aftermarket), then you meet the applicability requirements. Now, just get one of your customers to request you to get TS certification.
 

Howard Atkins

Forum Administrator
Staff member
Admin
#9
Well, if your parts go into OEM automotive vehicles, (not aftermarket), then you meet the applicability requirements. Now, just get one of your customers to request you to get TS certification.
As I understood it, there is no need for a customer request. As long as you fulfil the criteria you can apply.
 
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AndyJP - 2012

#10
As said before no need to be asked to do it. If going for TS will give you benifit then go for it. Some OEM's are demanding that TS be driven down into the supply chain but from experience you do have to have a cut off point.

I was QM at an investment foundry but that was a low down as TS went, but I did take some of the practices, such as APQP / FMEA / Control Plans, and after a long fight get our limited suppliers to fall in line for the products supplied to us.
 
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