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Eligible or ineligible to apply for ISO/TS16949 certification?

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bpritts

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As a bit of a "War story", one probable reason for the current IAOB position on "no aftermarket" was seen in some companies I worked with.

Lots of "aftermarket only" producers earned QS-9000 and use it as a marketing credential, to differentiate themselves from the more casual, low end aftermarket producers. In one market (the collision crash parts - bumpers, headlamps, etc.), the North American OEM's have been very upset about losing repair market share on these parts. Many folks see the ads
that the OE's issue to persuade you that you need a genuine fender for
$500 instead of the "imitation" fender for $200. If your collision is being
paid by an insurance company you may have no choice in this; you'll get
the $200 aftermarket part.

It's been my observation that *some* of the aftermarket parts are as good
as, and sometimes maybe better quality than the OE parts. Others are junk.
Buyer beware!

There are, however, other companies who sell aftermarket only parts, but sell them direct to a North American OEM. These folks are allowed into the club,
and indeed are mandated to get TS16949.

Regards,
Brad
 
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Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
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kamala said:
I work for a lubricants manufacturer, supplying to industry as well as automotive. My boss has asked me to study the possibility of implementing TS16949.
I have not seen the Standard but can anyone help me out here? i thought it is only applicable to parts manufacturer. :mad:
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TS is not limited to "parts." It also applies to raw materials and finishing services or assemblies. But, they have to end up at OEM's, not aftermarket.
 
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qmanager2012

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I know this topic goes way back a few years but I too am struggling with the TS 16949 eligibility.
We are a contract manufacturer and will be providing a service within the automotive industry which consists of flash media duplication. We do not manufacture the flash media, we purchase the blank media and program to the client specifications.
Our registrar has stated that we are not eligible for TS 16949 based on the service we are going to provide. However, our sales team is saying that the potential client (automotive) is requiring the certification.
Can someone help me out here? :mg: Much appreciated!
 
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AndyN

Moved On
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qmanager2012 said:
I know this topic goes way back a few years but I too am struggling with the TS 16949 eligibility.
We are a contract manufacturer and will be providing a service within the automotive industry which consists of flash media duplication. We do not manufacture the flash media, we purchase the blank media and program to the client specifications.
Our registrar has stated that we are not eligible for TS 16949 based on the service we are going to provide. However, our sales team is saying that the potential client (automotive) is requiring the certification.
Can someone help me out here? :mg: Much appreciated!
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Your registrar is correct, this is because the IATF don't consider what you describe to be manufacturing. I'm checking with a colleague as there are some oddities about applicability (floor mats etc) but for now, it may be your client is wrong...
 
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Golfman25

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qmanager2012 said:
I know this topic goes way back a few years but I too am struggling with the TS 16949 eligibility.
We are a contract manufacturer and will be providing a service within the automotive industry which consists of flash media duplication. We do not manufacture the flash media, we purchase the blank media and program to the client specifications.
Our registrar has stated that we are not eligible for TS 16949 based on the service we are going to provide. However, our sales team is saying that the potential client (automotive) is requiring the certification.
Can someone help me out here? :mg: Much appreciated!
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Consider yourself lucky. Get a letter from your registrar and show it to the client.
 
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