Evaluate a process audit

Qualygirl

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#1
Hi
how do you evaluate a process audit? (9001/14001)
Do you have a measurable rating scheme?
Do you present the results graphically?
An understandable example is also welcome.

Thanks and regards
 
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Randy

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#2
Don't overthink or over reach

"Did the audit achieve/meet desired needs/requirements?" YES or NO

Every audit has an objective or objectives, were they met?

Start trying to graph, measure, count, weigh and so on it just becomes another meaningless numbers game.
 

abdul42550

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#3
Process Audit is conducted based on Control Plan/Process sheet etc.
You can make a summary of finding and implement the gaps. the effectiveness can be measured by Finding vs Implemented.
Re audit the same process on interval for the effectiveness.
 
#4
Hi
how do you evaluate a process audit? (9001/14001)
Do you have a measurable rating scheme?
Do you present the results graphically?
An understandable example is also welcome.

Thanks and regards
Do you mean “evaluate” or “perform”? Just seeking to clarify.
Rating schemes don’t work for internal audits.
Only trends in audit findings, over time
 

John Broomfield

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Super Moderator
#5
Hi
how do you evaluate a process audit? (9001/14001)
Do you have a measurable rating scheme?
Do you present the results graphically?
An understandable example is also welcome.

Thanks and regards
Do you mean:

A. Evaluate a process?
B. Audit a process? or
C. Evaluate a process audit?

Three entirely different tasks.
 

John Broomfield

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Super Moderator
#8
Thanks, to evaluate a process audit for its effectiveness you need first to understand the reason for doing the evaluation.

It could be that your boss want to see if the process audits are necessary or can be done in a more efficient way.

Knowing the reason will influence your planning, preparation, sampling and reporting of the evaluation.

So, why evaluate process audits?
 

Qualygirl

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#9
Danke, um ein Prozessaudit auf seine Effektivität zu bewerten, müssen Sie zuerst den Grund für die Bewertung verstehen.

Es könnte sein, dass Ihr Chef sehen möchte, ob die Prozessaudits notwendig sind oder effizienter durchgeführt werden können.

Die Kenntnis des Grundes wird Ihre Planung, Vorbereitung, Probenahme und Berichterstattung der Bewertung beeinflussen.

Warum auch Prozessaudits evaluieren?
Hi
Neben einem Systemaudit fordert die ISO auch Prozessaudits, z.B. im Einkauf.
Diese wollte ich mit Fragen wie im VDA-System darstellen und mit den Stufen 0,4,6,8,10 bewerten,
daraus einen Erfüllungsgrad % ermitteln.
Und dann auch noch grafisch darstellen und im Bereich posten.
Ist das nicht eine gute Idee?

EDIT by moderator, to add translation:

In addition to a system audit, the ISO also requires process audits, e.g. in purchasing.
I wanted to present these with questions like in the VDA system and rate them with the levels 0,4,6,8,10,
determine a degree of fulfillment % from this.
And then also display it graphically and post it in the area.
Isn't that a good idea?

Please do not post in anything but English.
 
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John Broomfield

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Super Moderator
#10
Qualygirl,

Relating system audits to the system standard makes sense but this approach is of less value for process audits.

Usually, the client for a process audit wants to know if the process is effective and this includes conformity with the relevant clauses in the applicable standards.

Instead of rating the degree of conformity with the standard it is better for your report to be clear on what was sampled and what was found to be outstanding and what was found to be nonconforming.

Auditees cannot do much with your proposed ratings.

John
 
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