Explaining what a Quality Administrator does and Ballooning Prints

Joeem

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How would you describe to someone, who knows nothing of what ISO means or what goes on in an aerospace company to create a part, why a blueprint is ballooned, an Inspection Method Sheet is created, or why any other paperwork that may go with a "job" is necessary?

Does anyone else "balloon" blueprints? I know why I do basically, but when I have to explain to someone who knows nothing of why anything is done, when quality is NOT the beginning of the process of a job, it's difficult.

Any input is appreciated.
 
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Re: Explaining what a Quality Administrator does...

We balloon BPs because it is used to identify the characteristics of the First Article Inspection (FAI) report. Nothing that I know requires that a BP be "ballooned" unless the customer specifically wants it that way.
 

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Re: Explaining what a Quality Administrator does...

Hi Joeem - I'm not sure where you are going with this...
Do you have a situation where you are trying to train someone? Are you trying to justify your job? Create awareness?
 

Joeem

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Re: Explaining what a Quality Administrator does...

I have to some what train someone who may be in charge of signing my checks one day. They won't be taking my job, but it's to give them an idea of what goes on and why things are done. Also, it may help in the future they can't decide to get rid of ballooning, because they'll know the purpose of it. So in a way, I guess I am justifying my job also.

I hope that makes sense.
 
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R. Webb

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Re: Explaining what a Quality Administrator does...

The general approach I use is to number the dimensions from the upper left, go around each feature in a clockwise manner - first the outside of the part then the inside. Then I go to the next feature in the same clockwise manner. I stopped circling the numbers as it took too long - instead I use a felt pen with a thicker tip - unless the dimensions are really close together. In that case I use a fine tipped pen and use arrows to point the dimensions if it is not clear. I also try and use a dark blue ink in case anyone mistakes my handwritng for a print font (not likely) and my original is apparent. So far no one has complained.

What I find frustrating is that some customers will number the print after I have and of course the sequence is not the same so when talking about dimension 15 you have to ask - "Your place or mine?"
 

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Re: Explaining what a Quality Administrator does...

I have to some what train someone who may be in charge of signing my checks one day. They won't be taking my job, but it's to give them an idea of what goes on and why things are done. Also, it may help in the future they can't decide to get rid of ballooning, because they'll know the purpose of it. So in a way, I guess I am justifying my job also.

I hope that makes sense.
I see.
The best way I can think of is to map the process of creating a specification and show where your specialty is needed.
Mark and Coury have explained balloonning and the reasons for it.
No you have to expalin why it's necessary... start with your procedures/SOP's and hilight each responsibility that is yours and show that you are the process owner of creating the Inspection Method Sheet and why that sheet is required.

I just came out of a machine shop type manufacturer where ballooning was used to call out critical dimensions that had to be monitored during the run. These were used to create the inspection sheets the operators use and the SPC setup as well as final inspection when necessary.
When we did a FAI submission to a medical device company, for example, these were the dimensions that were used for the capability studies.

But definately start by going to your documented procedures first and see where your function is called out.
 
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alspread

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AS9102 Aerospace First Article Requirement specifies that every design characteristic shall have its own unique identifier.

This requirement goes way back to the earliest versions of the first article requirement and was (and still is) the primary method for assuring characteristic accountability.

It used to happen (and still should) that a QE or administrator would number every design characteristic and create a list of all of the requirements very early in the product/job life cycle. As the manufacturing process was developed and dimensions were incoporated into the operations, one could check off that the dimension was in fact ACCOUNTED for within the process somewhere. This assured that no dimensions or design characteristics were inadvertently omitted from the process. at the end of the process one would expect to see an operation number or some other indicator on every feature and be assured that every requirement was in the process some where.

Good Luck
 

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I might add that I would expect a marked up (ballooned) print at the contract review stage when building to someone else's print. I've seen contracts accepted where the tolerances couldn't be held (60%+ scrap anyone?). Bottom line was a bad contract review process.
 
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