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Helmut Jilling

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dchiles said:
Thanks for the replies and sentiment. We probably will not close by the end of the year. Although Dec 31st is the official date, it looks as though it will take at least til March.

I did finally talk to someone at the registrar, and they were 90% sure that it would not be a problem to forego the the audit because surveillance audits are only required annually and we were having them done every 6 months. I will wait until they are 100% sure before pulling the plug on audits.

We are moving most of the product to our sister companies, so our customers are ok with this as long as those facilities are TS and EMS certified.

I have only been a QA Manager for over a year, but worked in QA for twenty years total. Our company has hired outplacement services to help us transition to other opportunities.

Again, thanks for the replies.
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If your customers are OK with it, then losing registration is not an issue. It is up to your customers.

If you were closing in Dec., that is only a few months away. March is much further, and some may not want that long a lag.
 
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Kevin McG

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Having been through this situation recently, I would recommend that you have the surveillance audit only if your customer (or parent company) insists on it. If you do have to go through with it, make sure your auditor knows the context and level of support from employees that you are likely to receive. In my experience, auditors will be sympathetic and help you ensure that only major non-conformances are documented - they probably will not get back to review minor NCs anyway.

Good luck.
 
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dchiles - 2007

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Just got word from registrar, they say we do not require the audit as long as we are closed before the yearly audit date. Which would be by April 08. That shouldn't be a problem. I will, however, keep up the internal audits so we can get thru the next 4 or 5 months successfully. Everyone here has a great attitude and wants the closure to go as smoothly as possible.

Thank you all for your good advice :thanx:
 
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tomvehoski

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Just ask them to put you on an annual surveillance schedule.

I had a client several years ago that was closing their plant, so the let everything slide - internal audits, external audits, record keeping, etc. They kept extending the closure date because they kept getting more service orders. Then they decided they wanted to stay open for some new business. The registrar also goofed by not pulling their certification (QS at the time) when they had not been audited for 18 months.

I went in (consulting) to help them out and get things going again. We worked with the registrar and did an audit, which resulted in multiple majors as we expected. This at least gave them some time to fix the systems and get them running again. The follow up for the majors was OK, and they did not have to lose their certification.
 
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Sean Kelley

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My company just gave me outplacement services as well due to management changes and reorganization. I am not yet sure whether they are that helpful. I have asked for help in further developing my networking and have found this webiste to be better than anything they have helped me with. It has been good to discuss new opportunities but it would be quite pricey for an individual to pay for. Benefit vs $$ does not seem to be there at least for me. Hope it works well for you.
 
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