FAI measuring devices

[Mike S.]

We are getting that from here:
AS9102 per 4.1.C.6, which states:
Determine suitable monitoring and measuring equipment of appropriate resolution and accuracy. Ensure part
specific gauges and tooling are identified, qualified, and traceable.

There ya go. Keywords "part specific". It does not require every generic measuring tool (like calipers) to be identified.....

If you have a custom-made measuring tool that's a different story. Think of a pattern board that you put a custom bent tube in to make sure the bends are correct.

 

[gakiss2]

I'm not in a position to argue about what AS9100 requires. However I can logic in providing a gage identification on an FAI form. If a later calibration activity finds that the gage 'as found' condition does not meet your requirements then there is a requirement to evaluate the affects on the measurement results which were relied upon to release the product. It would be more impactful in this case since the 'release' is the overall approval of the product.
I think this is a stretch as far as actual AS requirement but having that traceability to the FAI outcome could be helpful in the right circumstances.

 

[magneto259]

Here is the best definition of qualified tooling I could find, which I agree with.
Qualified Tooling: Universal (not part specific) calibrated measuring equipment (e.g., go/no go gauges, thread gauges, radius gauges) used to validate product design characteristics, that are uniquely identified and traceable to their calibration records. Reference Form 3, Field 10 for measurement equipment entry.

 

[Mike S.]

Here is the best definition of qualified tooling I could find, which I agree with.
Qualified Tooling: Universal (not part specific) calibrated measuring equipment (e.g., go/no go gauges, thread gauges, radius gauges) used to validate product design characteristics, that are uniquely identified and traceable to their calibration records. Reference Form 3, Field 10 for measurement equipment entry.

That's from AS9102B, now obsolete. That is not the same in AS9102C.

 

[optomist1]

a bit late to this thread...but, whether required by AS, IATF, etc; in any manufacturing environment, ALL, tooling, fixtures, gages, etc should be no must be controlled...when a "challenge" arises, knowing exactly what went into said product and how, operator, tooling, fixtures is invaluable if not essential...
hope this helps...

 

[magneto259]

That's from AS9102B, now obsolete. That is not the same in AS9102C.

Actually I wasn't aware that exact statement was in AS9102. I found it online in a search. But, its pretty much how I interpret the requirement language of AS9102C.