Failed the AS9120B Exam Twice.....Need Help

A

Auditman64

Hi Gang....

Well, it looks like the AS9120B exam is just as much of a sh*t show as the AS9100D exam, in that: the questions/sentences are put together horribly and make no sense - the material provided doesn't fully explain some of the intent of the exam questions, and the review material provided by plexus contradicts most of what the standard says throughout the clauses.:mad:

I desperately have to get this exam under my belt, and I'm calling on all you AS9120 experts out there to point me in the right direction in terms of how best to approach yet another ridiculous AS exam, or at least inform me if there is a solid document or set of documents better to study from.

Any & all answers are welcome.....thanks...
 
Jack97116

Jack97116

Registered
Sounds to me like the critical issue here is the provider of the test. What can be done to switch to another test provider and report this company to the higher ups as intentionally misleading and have them start an audit of that test and company.
 
A

AndyN

Moved On
Jack97116 said:
Sounds to me like the critical issue here is the provider of the test. What can be done to switch to another test provider and report this company to the higher ups as intentionally misleading and have them start an audit of that test and company.
Click to expand...
I wouldn't hold my breath on that...
 
Randy

Randy

Super Moderator
Being the creator of exams that had to meet accreditation requirements I wasn't in awe of the accreditation organizations understanding many times of the basic audit process nor of the actual standard in question that had to be covered. In addition to the previous, the mandates for course content at times were not matched by requirements for test content...A disconnect so to speak. What's happening today in the business is beyond me, I ran away screaming a couple years back when the requirement for hands on experience of the instructor/author was practically eliminated so that almost anyone drawing breath could undertake the process. And as Andy said...Don't hold your breath!....Just my 2cents
 
A

AndyN

Moved On
Ha! Having also gone through the process, I recall being written up by the course evaluator for a) not having "sequentially numbered slides" and b) "too many Britishisms" in the materials (which was odd, since the developer was from NC).

Ah me...
 
Jack97116

Jack97116

Registered
I am thinking the authors of the testing want to ensure the examinee 1) understands the material and 2) knows what is wrong so they use critical thinking skills. To that end they use misleading questions and misdirection to discern our competence. I do think a lot of people go overboard trying this concept, some to the point of absurd.
 
A

AndyN

Moved On
Jack97116 said:
I am thinking the authors of the testing want to ensure the examinee 1) understands the material and 2) knows what is wrong so they use critical thinking skills. To that end they use misleading questions and misdirection to discern our competence. I do think a lot of people go overboard trying this concept, some to the point of absurd.
Click to expand...

You'd think they understood instructional design, but from what I've seen...
 
D

dsanabria

Quite Involved in Discussions
Auditman64 said:
Hi Gang....

Well, it looks like the AS9120B exam is just as much of a sh*t show as the AS9100D exam, in that: the questions/sentences are put together horribly and make no sense - the material provided doesn't fully explain some of the intent of the exam questions, and the review material provided by plexus contradicts most of what the standard says throughout the clauses.:mad:

I desperately have to get this exam under my belt, and I'm calling on all you AS9120 experts out there to point me in the right direction in terms of how best to approach yet another ridiculous AS exam, or at least inform me if there is a solid document or set of documents better to study from.

Any & all answers are welcome.....thanks...
Click to expand...
Send a PM - I could help you
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
Vader22 As-Found FAILED calibration ISO 14001:2015 Specific Discussions 16
D Transformation of Data Normality Failed Using Minitab Software 11
C TL-9000 Certifying Body Issue - Auditor failed to find an issue for 10 years TL 9000 Telecommunications Standard and QuEST 16
J Ignoring a Failed Gage R&R and upcoming external audit IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 22
S FDA electronic submission gateway (ESG): FAILED eMDR Submission Other US Medical Device Regulations 3
Q How to manage with customer % failed product ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 4
D Will A Few Failed Solder Joints Make Me RoHS Non Compliant? RoHS, REACH, ELV, IMDS and Restricted Substances 9
R Registrars offering to perform Second Party Audits - Have they failed their role? Registrars and Notified Bodies 112
N Final Inspection Retesting for Failed Batches Nonconformance and Corrective Action 6
S Statistics and Sampling - Accounting for Failed Tests Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 10
D Failed 350-018 exam Professional Certifications and Degrees 3
G Gage Recall Analysis - Threaded Plug Gage has failed Calibration General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 10
P Is it necessary to perform Root Cause Analysis for each failed part? Problem Solving, Root Cause Fault and Failure Analysis 16
S ISO/TS 16949 In Doldrums - Just failed disappointingly in the ISO9001 System Audit General Auditing Discussions 7
Q Micrometers to Measure Coating Thickness - Failed Calibration Flatness & Parallelism General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 9
I I failed my CQE Exam Professional Certifications and Degrees 21
S Heating Test Failed - Capacitor in secondary exceed its rated temperature IEC 60601 - Medical Electrical Equipment Safety Standards Series 4
Marc A NASA Failure Analysis of the April 28 2010 failed balloon launch World News 0
Moncia Traceability System to trace Failed Product for Corrective Action ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 38
Marc Saturn: Why one of Detroit?s brightest hopes failed World News 4
R My C=0 sampling failed to detect parts are out of round Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 20
S Supplier Development Process failed - Question regarding sub-suppiler audits IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 4
J Canadian Medical Device License Requirements - What if we failed to meet it? ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 4
M Readiness Review Failed - Stage one audit for TS16949 IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 7
Marc Has an Implementation by a Consultant EVER Failed? Consultants and Consulting 62
E Jumpstarting a Failed System ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 14
M About companies that have failed a surveillance audit Registrars and Notified Bodies 2
A Employee Support after Failed Promotion - Feelings of rejection, disillusionment, etc Career and Occupation Discussions 1
A Failed Re-Certifications - 9th Cycle Survey posted on the ISO website Registrars and Notified Bodies 2
P Thread plug gauge failed calibration - Must I remeasure everything measured with it? General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 23
S Failed Calibration - Plain Plug Gages - They grow! General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 24
C Need help in determining applicable clause for an audit finding (based on AS9120B) ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 4
M AS9120B annual recert AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 1
F AS9120B - Exclusions AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 3
S AS9120B - 8.5.2 Delivering Split Product AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 6
Q AS9120B flow down to external providers: Records Retention AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 2
Q AS9120B - ESD monitoring devices part of 7.1.5 AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 7
P AS9120B Control of External Providers for Franchised Distribution AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 0
W AS9120B - How to meet clause 7 Support that covers 7.1., 7.1.1, 7.1.2, & 7.1.3? AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 10
W AS9120B 8.5.1 Control of Production and Service Provision AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 2
C Are zero defect sampling plans relevant to AS9120B Distributor AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 4
Q AS9120B Clause 8.4.1.1 External Providers Scope of Approval AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 5
Q Customer Requirements - AS9120B Audit Finding AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 25
E AS9120B 8.4.2a Ensuring external providers remain within control of the QMS AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 6
W AS9120B QMS and its process AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 2
E Online training for an internal auditor to AS9120B AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 2
W AS9120B 8.4.3 Information for External Providers AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 5
W AS9120A to AS9120B transition AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 5
D AS9100D vs AS9120B differences AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 5
P 9104 _1A Exam AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 2

Similar threads

Top Bottom