'Final Inspection' and 'Layout & Functional Testing' - Part of Control Plan?

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jhoniegudel

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Is the 'Final Inspection' and 'Layout & Functional Testing' should be attached into Control Plan??? Is it necessity???
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Jim Wynne

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jhoniegudel said:
Is the 'Final Inspection' and 'Layout & Functional Testing' should be attached into Control Plan??? Is it necessity???
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Welcome to the Cove. Those things should be in the control plan.
 
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jhoniegudel

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Thanks Jim...
I've already implement Final Inspection & Layout Inspection. But until this time I have not included this activity in my Control Plan.
Before ask you, I have the same with you about this case.
Sorry Jim,
I'm working in the Machining Company....but until now I don't know the differences between Final Inspection & Layout Inspection.
Until now I have do same things in Final Inspection & Layout Inspection
Can you explain about this..

Sorry i can't speak English well.
 

Howard Atkins

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Welcome from me as well.
Final inspection- the inspection that you do to approve the part before you ship, usually at the time of packaging and as you decide (TS 8.2.4).
Layout- a complete dimensional and functional inspection according to the design records (drawing), required at certain times only, usually at PPAP and at times that you or your customer decides. (TS 8.2.4.1), this must be on the control plan
Hope this helps
 
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jhoniegudel

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Specially thanks to Mr. Howard,

I have done the same things at Final Inspection and Layout Inspection.
The different is the inspection frequency only.
That is OK?
I have planned that the layout inspection will be deleted because I have
done Final Inspection at every production process.
That is OK?
As you wrote before, the Final Inspection do before shipping, so what is the difference between Final Inspection and Pre Delivery Inspection?
Thanks before.
 
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zenti78

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Final inspection will not cover all the characterstics specified in the drawing.
(May include some dimensions and visual aspects)

Layout inspection is an periodic inspection of all characterstics specified in drawing.

A.Senthil
 

Jim Wynne

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zenti78 said:
Final inspection will not cover all the characterstics specified in the drawing.
(May include some dimensions and visual aspects)

Layout inspection is an periodic inspection of all characterstics specified in drawing.

A.Senthil
Not necessarily true; I've seen instances where a full layout was always performed at final inspection. In other words, there isn't necessarily a difference between "layout" and "final" inspection. Layouts might be done on an annual basis in addition to layouts at other times.
 

rnsvasan

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We do final inspection for each and every batch before despatch.This inspection plan includes all the parameters that are all addressed in layout inspection. My question is what action we have to take when we notice any deviation in Final Inspection and Layout Inspection ? Will action be the same in both cases ? Pl. clarify how to approach the problem in both cases. Thanx
 

Jim Wynne

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We do final inspection for each and every batch before despatch.This inspection plan includes all the parameters that are all addressed in layout inspection. My question is what action we have to take when we notice any deviation in Final Inspection and Layout Inspection ? Will action be the same in both cases ? Pl. clarify how to approach the problem in both cases. Thanx
As i suggested three years ago in a post up the thread a bit, there's no universally-accepted operational difference between "layout inspection" and "final inspection." The word "layout" is usually meant to describe a complete verification of all of the drawing dimensions and specifications, and that definition can apply to inspection anywhere in the process.

If you find a nonconformity in the product, you should take the action that's appropriate to your quality system requirements and your customer requirements.
 
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Umang Vidyarthi

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Specially thanks to Mr. Howard,

I have done the same things at Final Inspection and Layout Inspection.
The different is the inspection frequency only.
That is OK?
I have planned that the layout inspection will be deleted because I have done Final Inspection at every production process.
That is OK?
As you wrote before, the Final Inspection do before shipping, so what is the difference between Final Inspection and Pre Delivery Inspection?
Thanks before.
Not OK.

Lay out Inspection: Covers each and every detail given in the drawing.

Final Inspection: Covers all major specs. of the component and/or as per customer requirement. This may not cover every detail given in the drawing. That is where it is different from 'Layout Inspection'.

PDI (Pre Despatch/Delivery Inspection): Covers all major specs. as is done in Final Inspection.

All the PDIs may be called Final Inspection, but every Final Inspection may not fall in the category of PDI. For example, a component after completion going to assembly line (within the facility), has to go through Final Inspection which is not termed as PDI.

It is more of convenience rather than a rule, as to the use of the terms Final Inspection or PDI

Umang :D
 
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