First Australian Woman PM

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JaneB

#11
I do not think so, Indian women enjoy equal rights
With the greatest of respect, Ajit, when a majority of Indian women tell me that, I'll start to believe it. But not until then.

Sure there are the exceptional few. And I emphasise few. But I doubt that, everyday, women enjoy exactly the same equality as men do. They don't in Australia, why would it be different in India?

I understand there are laws in place (there are here), but the legal framework is one thing - a very important thing, don't get me wrong - and what actually happens in practice is another.

I'm not overly well informed on this, and relying on info from Wikipedia for example, which includes the following: )

Though it is gradually rising, the female literacy rate in India is lower than the male literacy rate. Compared to boys, far fewer girls are enrolled in the schools, and many of them drop out.

According to the National Sample Survey Data of 1997, only the states of Kerala and Mizoram have approached universal female literacy rates.

In urban India, girls are nearly at par with the boys in terms of education. However, in rural India girls continue to be less educated than the boys.

According to a 1998 report by U.S. Department of Commerce, the chief barrier to female education in India are inadequate school facilities (such as sanitary facilities), shortage of female teachers and gender bias in curriculum (majority of the female characters being depicted as weak and helpless).

Workforce participation - while women participate widely in work, there are far fewer women in the paid workforce than there are men. In the software industry 30% of the workforce is female. They are at par with their male counter parts in terms of wages, position at the work place, but this seems to be an exception.

Land and property rights - In most Indian families , women do not own any property in their own names, and do not get a share of parental property.... Due to weak enforcement of laws protecting them, women continue to have little access to land and property.In fact, some of the laws discriminate against women, when it comes to land and property rights.eg,:

The Hindu personal laws of mid-1956s (applied to Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains) gave women rights to inheritance. However, the sons had an independent share in the ancestral property, while the daughters' shares were based on the share received by their father. Hence, a father could effectively disinherit a daughter by renouncing his share of the ancestral property, but the son will continue to have a share in his own right. Additionally, married daughters, even those facing marital harassment, had no residential rights in the ancestral home. After amendment of Hindu laws in 2005, now women in have been provided the same status as that of men.

Crimes against women - Police records show high incidence of crimes against women in India. The National Crime Records Bureau reported in 1998 that the growth rate of crimes against women would be higher than the population growth rate by 2010.
These are the kinds of thing I was thinking of when I made my comment. If I'm wrong, happy to be corrected... but with factual data, not personal observations of one person's marital arrangements, which, while interesting, are basically irrelevant to the discussion.
 
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With the greatest of respect, Ajit, when a majority of Indian women tell me that, I'll start to believe it. But not until then.

Sure there are the exceptional few. And I emphasise few. But I doubt that, everyday, women enjoy exactly the same equality as men do. .
The Point probably Ajit was trying to make, Women in India have done equal damage to the Society.:lol:
 
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ChrissieO

#14
Yippee - a couple of days ago, folks, we got our first female PM ever, Julia Gillard. (The PM, for those of you ignorant of our politics is the leader of the party in power for the country).

And an unmarried, childfree woman at that! Wonders will never cease. Not only that, but our Governor-General, before whom Julia took the oath, is also a female. So there I was newly back from Europe, watching a female GG and a brand new female PM on the evening news. Quite brought a tear to the eye of this feminist, though it's been a very long time coming.
I think you will find she is not australian at all but from my mother country of wales and quotes Nye Bevan as one of her political heros:lol:

All power to her in this historically male dominated country. Do you think if we ask her nicely she will get neighbours taken off air ..........please:notme:

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True Position

#16
Its all downhill for Australia now.
More single mums on pensions
More union activists.
She wasnt even voted in by the polpulace, current PM was rousted by the feel gooders who like the feminist vote.
Oh well Julia enjoy it whilst you can until the power brokers move you out for the next good idea that gets short term votes!

Bazzle
It's good to know that it's not only US politics that sound like this.
 
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JaneB

#18
I think you will find she is not australian at all
Not Australian? You cannot be serious.

Yes, I know that like many many other Australian citizens, including me, she was born elsewhere than here. Her family (mine too) were one of the many 'ten quid' assisted passage immigrants from the UK which Australia happily brought in to add to its population.

She was all of 4 years old when she left, she has lived here all her life, was educated here and has worked here all her life. I have a similar experience, though I lived OS for a few years. I claim Australia as my country, while acknowledging Bristol, UK as my birthplace. I took out Australian citizenship, as presumably she has. I am not English now, though I was born there and of course there was a strong English influence in my upbringing.

But to claim she or I are not Australian? Rubbish.

Julia herself makes no secret of her original Welsh birth. But I am 100% confident she would entirely disagree with you that she 'is not Australian'. Just not true.
 
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