First Time Internal Auditor - Advice and Tips, please

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GAVINSM

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Hi All,

I have been given the task at work to be the IA for the company as well as Quality Manager and Magement Rep.

Going to undertaking my first Internal Audits next week, in our four offices throughout the week, I would be grateful for any advice or tips anyone can give me.
 
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GAVINSM

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Re: First Time Internal Auditor

I have undertaken the BSi's Internal Auditor training course.
 
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Duke Okes

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Re: First Time Internal Auditor

Hi All,I have been given the task at work to be the IA for the company as well as Quality Manager and Magement Rep.
Going to undertaking my first Internal Audits next week, in our four offices throughout the week, I would be grateful for any advice or tips anyone can give me.
Your question is too broad to answer. What are your specific interests/concerns?
 
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qualitygoddess - 2010

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Since you've had BSI training, you know you should have a schedule of audits, define an audit plan for each process-based audit, etc. What exactly are you looking for with tips?
 
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GAVINSM

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We are a Transportation Consultancy, in these first batch of audits I am examing our Project Process, from project startup to project close-out. However our QMS is only 4 weeks old in terms of being live, so I will be mostly examining the front end of the process.

My main concern is probably asking the correct questions, as I know the processes that are being looked at as I had join responsibility for the creation of the QMS for my sins.
 
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GAVINSM

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Re: First Time Internal Auditor

Since you've had BSI training, you know you should have a schedule of audits, define an audit plan for each process-based audit, etc. What exactly are you looking for with tips?
The main tips I am looking for are about asking the correct questions, I know these will be specific to different process/areas. But I'm sure there must be some common questions.
 
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ChrissieO

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Re: First Time Internal Auditor

I have undertaken the BSi's Internal Auditor training course.


That should of given you the basics. You may want to use a process tool such as a "turtle diagram" this will help you to remember to cover all aspects of a process.

Good luck and don't get too wrapped up in compliance tick boxing.

Look at the process and if you find failures in the process then refer back to whatever standard (assuming 9001 or similar) and if there is a failure in the process there is more than likely a failure to comply to the standard or your own procedures.

Read through any previous audits available, and any NCs raised internally and externally over the past year and check to see if the corrective actions are still in place.

Key thing to remember is "Inputs and Outputs" make it your new mantra :lol:

And make sure you always look for the good processes as well.

Chrissie
 
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Duke Okes

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The main tips I am looking for are about asking the correct questions, I know these will be specific to different process/areas. But I'm sure there must be some common questions.
Common questions are:

- What are your responsibilities (ISO 9001 section 5.5.1)?
- How do you know how to carry them out (6.2)?
- What are the quality objectives for your processes (5.4.1, 7.1.a)?
- How do you know whether you have achieved the quality objectives for your processes (8.2.3, 8.2.4)?
- What do you do if the objectives are not achieved (8.3, 8.5.2)?
- What is the quality policy (5.3.d?
- How do you know that documents you use are the correct edition (4.2.3)?
- What records do your processes create and how are they maintained (4.2.4)?
 
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GAVINSM

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Re: First Time Internal Auditor

Common questions are:

- What are your responsibilities (ISO 9001 section 5.5.1)?
- How do you know how to carry them out (6.2)?
- What are the quality objectives for your processes (5.4.1, 7.1.a)?
- How do you know whether you have achieved the quality objectives for your processes (8.2.3, 8.2.4)?
- What do you do if the objectives are not achieved (8.3, 8.5.2)?
- What is the quality policy (5.3.d?
- How do you know that documents you use are the correct edition (4.2.3)?
- What records do your processes create and how are they maintained (4.2.4)?
Thanks for those.
 
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