FMEA recommended actions column - What to do after actions are complete?

Jim Wynne

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Bigfoot said:
The link also reflects a systematic approach of review & update to the PFMEA, which is "supposed" to be a living document. IMHO the natural extension of the living document would involve the review & update which would include completed actions being institutionalized as 'current controls'.
Current controls are documented on the control plan, not the PFMEA. The PFMEA provides a record of what the current controls were when the PFMEA was intitiated.
 
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msrazak

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Hi, I am glad I found this forum thread and so thankful to our ever ready forum contributors. I am currently in the same situation. One of our customers issued us an NC when we removed the past action items from the PFMEA.

Anyway, can I say that all the recommended actions which are proven to be effective are transferred to the 'current process controls prevention' column and also adopted into the control plan?

And those recommended actions which are not effective are left in the Recommended actions column with appropriate remarks/recording?

:confused:
 

Jim Wynne

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msrazak said:
Anyway, can I say that all the recommended actions which are proven to be effective are transferred to the 'current process controls prevention' column and also adopted into the control plan?
If you're going to move them (and see my earlier posts in this thread for my views on that) you shouldnt move them indiscriminately to the "prevention" column; what if the recommended action results in a detection control?
 
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bgwiehle

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msrazak said:
...One of our customers issued us an NC when we removed the past action items from the PFMEA.

Anyway, can I say that all the recommended actions which are proven to be effective are transferred to the 'current process controls prevention' column and also adopted into the control plan?

And those recommended actions which are not effective are left in the Recommended actions column with appropriate remarks/recording?

:confused:
Careful that you aren't left with only failed actions! Customers (and management) like to see evidence of improvement. Also actions that weren't feasible may become feasible due to customer concerns or technology changes.

Usually we leave closed recommended actions in place. If there is a major change to the process, we archive a copy of the superceded version before updating and moving items (esp. older items) to the appropriate spots and, where appropriate, we specify the date implemented. We tend to use notes to explain peculiarities (part symmetry, design features, etc.) that don't fit into the PFMEA structure.

B.G. Wiehle
 
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Bill Ryan - 2007

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I tend not to move the Recommended Actions too quickly either. During one of our past audits I had to pull out several "archived" PFMEA documents for the same part to "prove" we actually used the columns (at that time I would move stuff at each update of the document).
 
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msrazak

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Bill Ryan said:
I tend not to move the Recommended Actions too quickly either. During one of our past audits I had to pull out several "archived" PFMEA documents for the same part to "prove" we actually used the columns (at that time I would move stuff at each update of the document).
;) Well then, when do we actually move our recommended actions? Any rough guideline?

Anyway, thank you guys, my understanding of 'moving the recommended actions' is much clearer now.
 
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