Football! (OK, we will even let soccer come in) - Fall 2006

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Keep talking, keep talking....
I know...on any given Saturday..., I've eaten enough crow about football predictions to last a lifetime. It's worth one day of "I-told-you-so" to be able to hype your team for two months!
Additional gloating follows:
BTW, Top ten teams by Conference:
3 Big 10 (Combined record 33-2, losses only to OSU and Michigan)
3 SEC (31-5)
1 PAC 10 (10-1, haha)
1 Big East
1 WAC
1 Independent
0 Big 12 (hahaha)
 
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A little information about the rankings of the conferences all time. Actually alot of information. SEC beats out the Big 10.
Based on higher win percentages due to a weaker schedule and higher "Big 4 Bowl" points due to a GIANT numerical advantage in getting invites to the Orange and Sugar Bowls. BIG 10, more National Championship points against a tougher schedule (nyah..nyah).:D
 
I was going by total points. The big two and little nine (Big 10) is behind the SEC. :yes:
And the total points include a big honkin' advantage for "Big 4" bowl points. Here's the records:
Big 4 Bowls: Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl

Rose Bowl:
92 games
Big 10
59 Appearances, 29 wins, 30 losses
SEC
8 Appearances, 4 wins, 4 losses

Sugar Bowl
72 Games
Big 10
9 appearances, 2 wins, 7 losses
SEC
65 appearances, 31 wins, 33 losses, 1 tie

Orange Bowl
72 Games
Big 10
9 appearances, 6 wins, 3 losses
SEC
29 appearances, 14 wins, 15 losses

Fiesta Bowl
35 Games
Big 10
12 appearances, 11 wins, 1 loss
SEC
6 appearances, 2 wins, 4 losses

Overall
Big 10
89 appearances, 48 wins, 41 losses
SEC
108 appearances, 51 wins, 56 losses, 1 tie

Sure, you can assign "bowl points" for just showing up at bowl games that traditionally pit an SEC champion against some pre-selected pansy (Sugar Bowl). You see what happens when they have to go play the Big 8 Champion (Orange Bowl) or a game pitting allegedly matched opponents (Fiesta Bowl). The won-loss record speaks for itself. When the Big 10 Champion plays a real opponent in a bowl game (the PAC 10 Champion, Rose Bowl 1947-2001) it's even money. When the SEC champion plays a hand-picked opponent (Sugar Bowl 1950-1997) it is also even money.
 
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Craig H.

And the total points include a big honkin' advantage for "Big 4" bowl points. Here's the records:
Big 4 Bowls: Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Fiesta Bowl

Rose Bowl:
92 games
Big 10
59 Appearances, 29 wins, 30 losses
SEC
8 Appearances, 4 wins, 4 losses

Sugar Bowl
72 Games
Big 10
9 appearances, 2 wins, 7 losses
SEC
65 appearances, 31 wins, 33 losses, 1 tie

Orange Bowl
72 Games
Big 10
9 appearances, 6 wins, 3 losses
SEC
29 appearances, 14 wins, 15 losses

Fiesta Bowl
35 Games
Big 10
12 appearances, 11 wins, 1 loss
SEC
6 appearances, 2 wins, 4 losses

Overall
Big 10
89 appearances, 48 wins, 41 losses
SEC
108 appearances, 51 wins, 56 losses, 1 tie

Sure, you can assign "bowl points" for just showing up at bowl games that traditionally pit an SEC champion against some pre-selected pansy (Sugar Bowl). You see what happens when they have to go play the Big 8 Champion (Orange Bowl) or a game pitting allegedly matched opponents (Fiesta Bowl). The won-loss record speaks for itself. When the Big 10 Champion plays a real opponent in a bowl game (the PAC 10 Champion, Rose Bowl 1947-2001) it's even money. When the SEC champion plays a hand-picked opponent (Sugar Bowl 1950-1997) it is also even money.
Keep talking, keep talking...
 

Hershal

Metrologist-Auditor
Staff member
Super Moderator
I sit here just outside Seattle watching football on TV thinking it is like watching Green Bay at home.....and watching the snow outside the hotel window.....

And wonder why - aside from an obvious bias - could USC be ranked #2? I know they are but.....

NCAA records from 2000 through 2004 broken down by year, show the top 10 toughest schedules according to NCAA. USC is in the top 10 in 2002.....thats it, one year.....Florida, Alabama, and Arkansas are all in the top 10 toughest schedules 3 of the 5 years.....

USC beat how many teams this year that were ranked in the top 10 when they played USC? Not many.....

Florida on the other hand beat at least two that were in the top ten at time of play, and two more that were in the top 20 I believe.....

Florida's one loss was to a top 10 ranked team.....USC's one loss was to an UNRANKED team.....

So what is the possible justification for USC to even be in the top 5, much less ahead of Florida or Michigan? Certainly not in the schedule or on the field.....

Anyone know?

Hershal
 
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Laura M

All I know is that snow is heading my way! I thought the game was in GB when I first tuned in! Thought for sure Seattle had a dome!

I agree with your analysis. Michigan played OSU tight. I was rooting for ND vs. USC just to shake up the system. Michigan crushed ND. USC lost to an unranked team. It puts Mich at #2 IMO. The only opinion I heard contrary was "In order to be in the championship game, you must first win your conference." I guess that makes sense. Just too bad the 2 best teams are in the same conference.

You know, the year my son's HS soccer team lost in the state qualifier, the team they lost to went on to be the state champs. Unfortunately, the way the system was set up, our region was very strong- we all knew that watching that game was the state championship. The winner of that game cruised to the finals. So it's all in the system.
 

BradM

Staff member
Admin
Given the icy reception to my previous post:lol: , obviously there are no Cowboy fans out there. (well for that matter, no Longhorn fans either:confused: ). After their dismal playing lately, I'm not sure if it's wise to bring up the Longhorns.

Anyway, FoxSports is reporting that Cowboy released Vanderjagt and will sign Gramatica. Not sure if it was his performance, his Manning comments, relationship with Parcells, or a brewing combination of all of them. Could be... Boss Hogg just wants to win!
 
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