Forms that need to be used in the audit process for ISO TS 16949

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jrubio

#1
Hi,

Could somebody tell me or provide the forms that need to be used in the Audit process for ISO TS 16949.

I know that the check list is under Check List ISO TS even with a form for Do & Check but where are the forms of the Audit results.


I have the forms for ISO 9001 but stil searching for ISO TS 16949

Your help would be much appreciated.
 
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#2
Not sure we understand what you need, Javier....

There are no forms 'required' by either ISO 9001 or ISO/TS 16949 internal audits, in my experience. Are you being told that there are or have you got some document which says some forms are required?

Let us know so we can help you better............

Andy
 

antoine.dias

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#3
Forms for audits

Depending on the structure ( and the culture ? ) in your company you may need the following forms :

- Audit planning form
- Process overview form ( " consider the turtle diagram " )
- Audit report form ( combined or 3 separate forms )
- Action plan & follow up form
- Summary form to report to management review
- For ISO TS we are talking about system, mfg process, product audits.

About the checklist :
Take care that the previous " QSA " item driven checklist must not be used anymore ( see IATF Rules - second edition ).

Best regards,
Antoine
 
J

jrubio

#4
Hi.

As you mention a QS check list is now obsolet but an ISO TS 16949:2002 Check List ia available and within this check list there are a matrix to mark the Non conformace or Improvement opportunity.

I this this is the way to proof as it is specified in the norm that we have conducted the Audit though ISO TS 16949.
 
R

ralphsulser

#5
There were several posted here on the "Cove". Try a seach and you should be able to see several TS16949 audit sheck sheet examples
 
#6
Doing an audit to TS requires more........

than filling out the 'QSA' type of checklist, Javier. Have you had any kind of formal training on how to perform internal audits to ISO/TS 16949? From some of your other posts it sounds like you didn't get that training yet, or if you did, the training didn't address some basic issues.:caution:

My recommendation is to attend some accredited training and you'll have many questions nswered for you. And one of the key points is not using a QSA type checklist:yes:

Let us know if you did this training yet.

Andy
 
J

jrubio

#7
Dear Andy.

I did an ISO 9001 Audit trainning and I expect to receive a training couuse of ISO TS 16949 within 3 months.

But I have many bools of ISO TS from IATF
 
J

jrubio

#8
The ISO TS Check List exixts

Dear Andy.

I have:

1) an ISO TS 16949 Check List with some forms for each process to audit and include Non conformance form.

2) Guide to apply ISO TS with IATF recommendation

3) Rules for Certification.
 
#9
May I suggest that these forms

should not be used by you in your internal audit program. It has been my experience that many forms like this don't support an effective internal audit program and you'd be a lot better to have a look at the examples posted on this site and select some that you can feel comfortable using.:yes:

Anyone else like to comment about using such sources as the AIAG/AITF for internal document formats?:mg:

Andy
 

Howard Atkins

Forum Administrator
Staff member
Admin
#10
AndyN said:
should not be used by you in your internal audit program. It has been my experience that many forms like this don't support an effective internal audit program and you'd be a lot better to have a look at the examples posted on this site and select some that you can feel comfortable using.:yes:

Anyone else like to comment about using such sources as the AIAG/AITF for internal document formats?:mg:

Andy
As far as I see Andy you are the only one talking about internal audits.
If the audit is external there is a form for organising the processes whicjh I have seen. The checklist is no longer used.
Each CB has its own forms
 
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