Freedom of Speech? Microsoft prohibits anti-ms speech

Marc

Hunkered Down for the Duration
Staff member
Admin
#1
Freedom of Speech?

From http://slashdot.org/

Posted by CmdrTaco on Friday September 21, @11:34AM - from the on-and-on-and-on dept.

A mild controvery occured yesterday in a story claiming Microsoft prohibits anti-ms speech if you use Frontpage. Here is a followup submitted by Reyacta from the original author: "Several readers have told me their EULA for FrontPage 2002 does not contain the no-disparaging-MS term, or that the term only applies to the FrontPage logo or to the Web components like the MSNBC news headline component. Just to be sure, this afternoon I went down to the store and bought a copy of FrontPage 2002 myself. In the box was the "Microsoft Frontpage 2002" license on a four-page folded sheet, titled "End- User License Agreement For Microsoft Software." Under Section #1, Grant of License, the second paragraph headed "Restrictions" states in part: "You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services, infringe any intellectual property or other rights of these parties, violate any state, federal or international law, or promote racism, hatred or pornography." (Not only a stunning example of legal overreaching, in my opinion, but very poor grammar as well.) It appears to me to clearly apply to use of the program as a whole and not just the logo or Web components. I suspect that there are different versions of the EULA of FrontPage 2002. Perhaps the license was updated for the most recent SKU, or versions obtained through different channels don't yet have it. I'm going to try to get Microsoft to clarify where this EULA does and doesn't appear, but I'm not sure they will be very anxious to provide me with that information.
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor
E

energy

#2
Do we really care about warnings?

Marc,

Do I care about the warnings that forbid burning a CD or copying of any type of a MS Program? There are all types of warnings and verbal restrictions all over the place from all software manufacturers. Yet, they are copied and shared at will. Remember the "Federal Violation" if you copied a VHS VCR tape? Now, the cable networks tell you what time to set your VCR. The warning still appears about copy rights. I would really be concerned if MS can implement that system in your earlier post regarding the "re-activation" requirement that permits them to search the web for unauthorized use of their programs. (They have to catch you at it) That, to me, is a real security and privacy issue. (I know, that's another thread.) I call it kind of a civil disobedience, but, it's also about stealing. I have mixed emotions on that. On one hand, I want it because a friend offered me the disc, for free. (Greed). On the other hand, if I sold it, I would want compensation. (Greed) Did I get off the subject here? It's late and I'm rambling. Have a great weekend.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Marc

Hunkered Down for the Duration
Staff member
Admin
#3
You're talking about a copyright issue. This says you cannot, for example, make and publish a web page which in any way:

> disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their
> products or services, infringe any intellectual property
> or other rights of these parties

Of course you can do it, if that is your point - you can publish a web page that says "Microsoft Sucks!" with Microsoft Frontpage, but technically you're liable to suit by Microsoft. You'd be surprised how far Microsioft has gone. They have even gone so far as to state that open source software is un-American and communistic.
 
E

energy

#4
Rejected

Marc,

I stand dejected, no I mean corrected. You, as the pilot of the starship "Cove", have far more knowledge regarding software companies and their predatory practices. As one who just washes the windows and fuels this starship, my exposure to MS has always been positive. Us guys on the ground just want our programs to run well and do what they say it will. Therefore, I could never say "Microsoft Sux". No fear of litigation here! :D
 
A

Al Dyer

#5
Not written on MS Front Page, But:

MICROSOFT POLICIES SUCK

I won't go to XP until I am dragged and kicking. There are few alternate choices and even now MS is almost in control of Apple!

Didn't they just release Office for Mac?
 

Marc

Hunkered Down for the Duration
Staff member
Admin
#6
You don't have to go to XP - stay with what you have. I haven't even updated to OS X on the Mac and am on Win 98 on the peecee. Everything works - that's all I need. I still use Office 98 Mac and I have Office 2000. There have been two Mac releases since then and I guess a couple of peecee updates.
 
S

Steven Truchon

#8
Fascinating! I was unaware the MS was extending their "influence" that far. I use FP for my website(s) and although I currently have no negative issues with MS, I couldnt see the need to broadcast any if I did, due to the nature of the sites I maintain. My concern on what I'll call censorship, is that if MS can control the degree of content in the use of their products purchased by the consumer, what comes next in a long line of this exercise? Profanity, religious expression, political alignment, etc, etc, etc. I want to doubt it would ever come to that but knowing MS I would not be shocked if it did.
Their condition as you have expressed it really brings out the rebel in me (haha).
Thanks for the information.
Steve
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
G What degrees of freedom means in uncertainty budget and how do I set the value Measurement Uncertainty (MU) 2
M Degrees of freedom for XmR charts Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 5
C Degrees of Freedom with Linear Regression - Pressure Sensor Uncertainty Measurement Uncertainty (MU) 15
kedarg6500 Bias Study-Finding degree of freedom-P 92 of MSA manual 4th Ed. Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 6
R Taguchi Design - Degree of freedom for l27 in 4 factors 3 level (Minitab) Using Minitab Software 15
U Defining Essential Performance to Achieve Freedom from Unacceptable Risk IEC 60601 - Medical Electrical Equipment Safety Standards Series 15
S Degrees of Freedom - How to calculate degrees of freedom and bias General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 3
P Minitab error: Zero or negative degrees of freedom Using Minitab Software 16
N Calculating Degrees of Freedom in order to determine my K value Measurement Uncertainty (MU) 4
S Degrees of freedom in a 2 sample t test Six Sigma 5
S Different statistical software = Difference in Degree of freedom?? Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 3
R How would you explain DoF (Degrees of Freedom) to a non-statistician? Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 3
A Measurement Uncertainty (MU) - Confidence Interval & Degrees of Freedom? Measurement Uncertainty (MU) 4
V How is the degree of freedom (v) calculated from the d2* table Measurement Uncertainty (MU) 2
S MiniTab vs. Excel: Difference in Degrees of Freedom Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 5
I John Seddon - Freedom from Command & Control Book, Video, Blog and Web Site Reviews and Recommendations 2
Atul Khandekar Where can I find Duncan's Tables (d2* and Degrees of Freedom) on the internet? Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 3
Sidney Vianna As a profession we, auditors, are not doing enough - Simon Feary speech Registrars and Notified Bodies 36
hogheavenfarm 'Elevator Speech' examples wanted Career and Occupation Discussions 21
A Speech Recognition to Improve Data Entry Speed and Accuracy Human Factors and Ergonomics in Engineering 9
S World's best retirement speech? Coffee Break and Water Cooler Discussions 15
Jen Kirley Who pays attention to the airline's safety speech? Coffee Break and Water Cooler Discussions 18
Antonio Vieira Learn any language! Text to Speech - It's easy to speak for example Portuguese After Work and Weekend Discussion Topics 3
E Speech of ISO Secretary-General Other ISO and International Standards and European Regulations 15
J Microsoft Smart Art Turtle Diagram Process Maps, Process Mapping and Turtle Diagrams 9
M Informational Microsoft Built a Bot to Match Patients to Clinical Trials Medical Device and FDA Regulations and Standards News 0
J Microsoft Teams to manage Internal Audit System? Internal Auditing 3
D Microsoft Excel database to Stand-alone software Calibration and Metrology Software and Hardware 3
QSM_Rick Controlling Multi-Tab Microsoft Excel Forms Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 5
A Free software similar to Microsoft Project - Any suggestion? APQP and PPAP 5
Marc ASQ Linkedin Group - Microsoft Sharepoint discussion - June 2017 Quality Assurance and Compliance Software Tools and Solutions 0
Marc Microsoft to rip up P2P Skype, killing native Mac, Linux native apps World News 0
Marc Microsoft just bought LinkedIn For $196/Share World News 9
I How to build a Microsoft Access MDB Database for Document Control Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 6
M Active X and latest update from Microsoft - Dec 2014 After Work and Weekend Discussion Topics 4
N Microsoft Word - How to make high-light go away after text is put in Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 5
B How to validate Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet Calculations for the Cpk value Capability, Accuracy and Stability - Processes, Machines, etc. 9
O Chi Square Normality Test using Microsoft Excel Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 2
insect warfare IRS pays Microsoft for Windows XP support After Work and Weekend Discussion Topics 2
Marc Microsoft to push out XP patch on March Patch Tuesday - 2014 After Work and Weekend Discussion Topics 19
T Microsoft Access Database to create a Simple Calibration Certificate General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 6
V Alternative to Microsoft Office - Open Office vs. Google Docs After Work and Weekend Discussion Topics 26
Jim Wynne Have you tried Microsoft Windows 8? After Work and Weekend Discussion Topics 25
AnaMariaVR2 Guide to Microsoft Excel for Calculations, Statistics, and Plotting Data Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 11
M Microsoft Excel - Trouble with Auto-Entry of Dates Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 13
H 4.2.3 Document Control using Microsoft Sharepoint - Visibility of Draft Documents ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 3
L 21 CFR Part 11 Requirements - Microsoft Excel Add-on Functions 21 CFR Part 820 - US FDA Quality System Regulations (QSR) 6
Q Looking for Microsoft Dynamics AX Training Videos for Inspection Journals Manufacturing and Related Processes 1
J Conditional Formatting for Microsoft Excel Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 2
Colin Changing the Colour of a Date in Microsoft Excel Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 4

Similar threads

Top Bottom