Fuel tank issue (FOD) hits Boeing’s 737 MAX - Feb 2020

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Marc

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#4
Especially with occurrences such as these:
The company has had recent issues with debris – including tools and rags – found in its 787 Dreamliners and KC-46A military refueling tankers. Those issues have led to two suspensions of deliveries of KC-46As to the US Air Force, the report said.
 

Mike S.

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Yep, I hear ya.

I worked with Boeing (as a supplier) for a lotta years. Seemed like starting in about 2016 I detected changes there that were not for the better. Career Boeing employees who used to be gung-ho company people were growing unhappy. Looks like once again leadership failed a company and many good people below suffer.
 

Randy

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I know it's impossible, but if the people that QC'd those airplanes had to sit in them during the test/acceptance flights like I had to these BS faults would disappear fast. As and aircraft QA/QC your watchfulness changes real fast when you have to strap the thing to your butt and do all the "validation" personally.
 

optomist1

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in a broader sense a very broad sense...re: the apparent cultural regression @ Boeing....where the bleep has the board of directors been?
A few more thoughts
1) the board would appear to be absent/asleep at the switch/incompetent... Auto or aero or similar experience required...Current CEO Calhoun is the wrong person to lead a tech powerhouse like Boeing..."a bean counter/finance person from GE", this speaks volumes as to why he is misplaced...again auto or aero (or similar) experience required, maybe one Finance person on the board.
2) Calhoun stated..."All of us were hoping and praying that Dennis could get through that … in good order,” Calhoun said. “And that just didn’t happen. So here we are.”...incredible CEO statement hoping and praying!!
3) "Boeing’s governance principles require that at least 75 percent of its board directors satisfy the New York Stock Exchange criteria for independence, meaning that they have no material relationship with Boeing other than as a director. The company also limits its directors from serving on more than four other corporate boards." Using NYSE guidelines, is at best misguided...Boeing was in denial, and slow, when was the last time a board member visited a production facility and spoke with line folks and engineers?
4) Ask the folks at VW, changing a corporate culture of arrogance & greed is a long-term effort...

just my thoughts...William Boeing is not happy...
 

Marc

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I have read a few articles that opined that things started down hill when Boeing upper management moved to Chicago.
 

optomist1

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#9
yes, same here, I make my comments with a conflicted heart as Boeing is like American Pie to me...(not the movie), a stalwart, etc, they will recover and prosper...what I find most frustrating, this goes beyond the present matter...are Boards of Directors, that are in fact complicit and part of the problem rather than part of the solution. All of these machinations and travails...avoidable:cool::cool:
 

Ronen E

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in a broader sense a very broad sense...re: the apparent cultural regression @ Boeing....where the bleep has the board of directors been?
A few more thoughts
1) the board would appear to be absent/asleep at the switch/incompetent... Auto or aero or similar experience required...Current CEO Calhoun is the wrong person to lead a tech powerhouse like Boeing..."a bean counter/finance person from GE", this speaks volumes as to why he is misplaced...again auto or aero (or similar) experience required, maybe one Finance person on the board.
2) Calhoun stated..."All of us were hoping and praying that Dennis could get through that … in good order,” Calhoun said. “And that just didn’t happen. So here we are.”...incredible CEO statement hoping and praying!!
3) "Boeing’s governance principles require that at least 75 percent of its board directors satisfy the New York Stock Exchange criteria for independence, meaning that they have no material relationship with Boeing other than as a director. The company also limits its directors from serving on more than four other corporate boards." Using NYSE guidelines, is at best misguided...Boeing was in denial, and slow, when was the last time a board member visited a production facility and spoke with line folks and engineers?
4) Ask the folks at VW, changing a corporate culture of arrogance & greed is a long-term effort...

just my thoughts...William Boeing is not happy...
Boeing might be a tech powerhouse, but that's just a by product. It's not its primary goal to excel technologically. Its primary goal (like any contemporary mega corporate) is to generate profit, theoretically for shareholders, but vide the Agency Problem. That should explain at least points 1 & 3 of yours. In the current general economical atmosphere/trend this is nothing of wonder.
 
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