Full Job Description and Responsibilities in ISO 9000?

[QAMTY]

Hi everybody

I have a doubt and hope to receive feedback

For example in a company:

Where people work and several position exist performing a Job.

When involved in ISO 9000 systems and developing procedures
for Design and development (7.3)

E.g, in a certain procedure are defined the responsibilities
of each position (e.g. mechanic engineer) but in this procedure
only are included responsibilities for this particular procedure, however
this guy has much more.

In ISO Clauses, Where should I include the full responsibilities of him?

Should It be my responsibility as Quality Coordinator to create
a special document describing all of this?

Could this be like a JOb description?

Could this be a task of HR department? but not part of the Quality System?

P.D.

In my knnowledge

a Job Description contains several issues

-Purpose of position-
-Responsabilities
-Functions
-Academic preparation
-etc.

What are your points of view?

Thanks a lot in advance

 

[Colin]

Re: Full Job Description in ISO 9000?

Well, as you no doubt know, ISO 9001 does not require job descriptions as such. It does require that responsibilities and authorities are defined and communicated. (Clause 5.5.1)

Alternatives to job descriptions (if you want to) could include describing responsibilities in procedures and work instructions, or in a quality plan or a project plan or wherever you like. As long as people know what they are responsible for and it works for you.

 

[Ettore]

Should It be my responsibility as Quality Coordinator to create
a special document describing all of this?

Nope, the departments managers should. I suggest to write just the specifications for write down the jobs

 

[Ka Pilo]

Hi everybody

I have a doubt and hope to receive feedback

For example in a company:

Where people work and several position exist performing a Job.

When involved in ISO 9000 systems and developing procedures
for Design and development (7.3)

E.g, in a certain procedure are defined the responsibilities
of each position (e.g. mechanic engineer) but in this procedure
only are included responsibilities for this particular procedure, however
this guy has much more.

In ISO Clauses, Where should I include the full responsibilities of him?

Should It be my responsibility as Quality Coordinator to create
a special document describing all of this?

Could this be like a JOb description?

Could this be a task of HR department? but not part of the Quality System?

P.D.

In my knnowledge

a Job Description contains several issues

-Purpose of position-
-Responsabilities
-Functions
-Academic preparation
-etc.

What are your points of view?

Thanks a lot in advance

It should be stated in a job description. Normally, the Department Head is responsible for ensuring that a particular document (e.g. procedure) being used by his department is necessary and that it reflects actual practice.

 

[SteelMaiden]

It should be stated in a job description. Normally, the Department Head is responsible for ensuring that a particular document (e.g. procedure) being used by his department is necessary and that it reflects actual practice.

Job descriptions are not a specific requirement of ISO 9001. We've alread established this fact, so to say that they are is perpetuating a falsehood.

 

[james_r]

Job descriptions are not a specific requirement of ISO 9001. We've alread established this fact, so to say that they are is perpetuating a falsehood.

I would have thought that a job description would be the starting point for 6.2.2 a,b,c ?

No ?

 

[Colin]

I would have thought that a job description would be the starting point for 6.2.2 a,b,c ?

No ?

They are a good option for some organisations, but not a mandatory requirement.

 

[SteelMaiden]

I would have thought that a job description would be the starting point for 6.2.2 a,b,c ?

No ?

They certainly can be, but the standard does not require us to have a document called job descriptions.

 

[SteelMaiden]

I would have thought that a job description would be the starting point for 6.2.2 a,b,c ?

No ?

They certainly could be used, but there is no requirement in the standard stating you have to have them.

 

[Brizilla]

When i took over as quality manager there were job descriptions listed as rev contolled work instructions. They were 6 years old and never updated.

I yanked them out of the system and delivered the files to the HR Manager as "useful information" for her.

If they are in there you can be audited to them. If someone's job has evolved or changed you could get a finding for not matching responsibilities and duties to the WI. Kind of silly if you ask me.

BASIC JOB DESCRIPTION: Title, and other duties as assigned.