General Term for Inspection Process of Sample Parts that everyone can understand

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Kira_n

#1
Hi,

I am looking for a general term for the inspection process of sample parts. It needs to be understood by people of all kinds of industries.

This is the process (roughly):
- Take samples from first (serial) production
- Test dimensions, performance, material, etc.
- Send report stating parts comply with requirements in drawing.

  • Automotive industry says PPAP
  • Aerospace uses FAI
  • ? uses Initial Sample Inspection Report
But what is a general term for all industries?

Regards,
Kira :confused:
 
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Umang Vidyarthi

#2
Re: General Term for Inspection of Sample Parts

'First Article Inspection' is popularly being used by most. In auto sector too my customers run FAI prior to the PPAP.

As you have stated about taking samples, from the first (serial) production, the PPAP lot may not contain any of these.

Let others chime in to contribute as per their experience.

Umang :D
 
K

Kira_n

#3
Re: General Term for Inspection of Sample Parts

Hi,

What are the requirements in general for a FAI (First Article Inspection) - are there standards apart from PPAP and aerospace?

Regards,
Kira
 
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Umang Vidyarthi

#4
Re: General Term for Inspection of Sample Parts

Hi,

What are the requirements in general for a FAI (First Article Inspection) - are there standards apart from PPAP and aerospace?

Regards,
Kira
A "First Article Inspection Report" is a requirement placed on the 'supplier' by the 'customer'. The report documents, and certifies that each first article unit, delivered to the buyer, was produced and inspected in accordance with the buyer’s specifications. The report includes all physical, material, and chemical test data associated with the part. [These reports are provided to the buyer and a copy retained by the supplier, for a minimum specified period as required by the buyer.]

The customer also conducts his own FAI on the supplied parts, which includes 'destructive test' as well, wherever need be.

Hope this helps

Umang :D
 
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Wendy McLaughlin

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Re: General Term for Inspection of Sample Parts

I would use first article inspection.
 

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#6
Re: General Term for Inspection of Sample Parts

Do you Submit FA Report for each shipment or for the total of parts that were produced without changing anything in the process?
 
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Umang Vidyarthi

#7
Re: General Term for Inspection of Sample Parts

Do you Submit FA Report for each shipment or for the total of parts that were produced without changing anything in the process?
As the name suggests, the 'First Article Inspection' is conducted only the first time a componenet is supplied. The number of components required for FAI is determined by the customer.

Umang :D
 
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Umang Vidyarthi

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Re: General Term for Inspection of Sample Parts

I would use first article inspection.
Hello Wendy McLaughlin,:bigwave:Welcome to the Cove:bigwave:

This is a customer specific requirement, the quantity is determined by the customer, since the components are required to pass through rigorous & gruelling tests and inspection.

You may adopt FAI for in-house inspection too, to surface even a minor non conformity of the product.

Umang :D
 
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OE-ProgramManager

#9
First to answer Kira N,

ISIR (Initial Sample Inspection Report) is also an automotive industry acronym and is basically the same as a PPAP. It is more commonly used with Asian car maker's requirements, where PPAP is more widely accepted by US and European car makers.

As an out of work program/project manager from the auto industry, it was my job to teach suppliers how to meet all these requirements, manage the documents and the process from kick off to launch of the product. We worked with many different car makers and the use of PPAP and ISIR seemed inter-changeable, and each car maker had their own preference.

The other comment here about 'first article samples' is very important to all of these various industry approval processes, because the first article sample becomes the approved benchmark for future reference if any deviations in the product are discovered and not reported by the vendor. First article samples would be maintained by both the supplier and the OE, and would be secured and protected in all its original packaging to act as a later reference if needed for issues ranging from color, appearance, dimensional changes, functionality/performance, packaging, etc.
 
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Umang Vidyarthi

#10
First to answer Kira N,

ISIR (Initial Sample Inspection Report) is also an automotive industry acronym and is basically the same as a PPAP. It is more commonly used with Asian car maker's requirements, where PPAP is more widely accepted by US and European car makers.

As an out of work program/project manager from the auto industry, it was my job to teach suppliers how to meet all these requirements, manage the documents and the process from kick off to launch of the product. We worked with many different car makers and the use of PPAP and ISIR seemed inter-changeable, and each car maker had their own preference.

The other comment here about 'first article samples' is very important to all of these various industry approval processes, because the first article sample becomes the approved benchmark for future reference if any deviations in the product are discovered and not reported by the vendor. First article samples would be maintained by both the supplier and the OE, and would be secured and protected in all its original packaging to act as a later reference if needed for issues ranging from color, appearance, dimensional changes, functionality/performance, packaging, etc.
Hello ProgramManager, :bigwave:Welcome to the Cove:bigwave:

Very good first post. :applause:

Umang :D
 
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