SBS - The Best Value in QMS software

GR&R on a In-process gauge installed on a grinder machine?

A

AlexMx

#1
There is a customer requesting me to perform, a GR&R study on a in-process gauge installed on a grinder machine.

I told him, there is not correct to evaluate an inprocess gauge on this way. The capability machine study is the correct way to do it, but he is not well convinced.

So if someone can tell me where I can get some literature to show him it will be very appreciated.

Thanks for your help in advance.
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor
B

Bill Ryan - 2007

#2
GR&R study on a in-process gauge

Alex,

I may not fully understand your definition of "in-process" gage, but I'll proceed on the assumption (favorite word!!!!) that you mean an attribute type of gage (whether "narrow limitted" or not). I'm also assuming that this gage accepts/rejects product.

If those assumptions are correct, I'm afraid I side with your customer (if you don't know that this gage will reject nonconforming product, what faith would you have in a machine capability study?) and an attribute Gage R&R should be required.

Bill
 
C

Chickenlips

#3
Is this in process gage used for automatically making adjustments? If the gage makes adjustments to the machine based on the measurement readings, I would not only perform a machine capability study, but a gage R & R as well. It's very important to prove that the gage is suitable for your application.

This may not be good news for you! Good luck!
 
A

AlexMx

#4
thanks for your fast reply

Well, let me explain you the in process gage is just controlling the size of a part grinded during the machine cycle, and there is not making a feedback to the machine CNC.

I'm assuming, if there is an automatic process, where are involved some movements and actions of the machine to hold the part, locate it, rotate it, and to move the gauge from the rest to the part measuring position, this will afect the performing of the gauge to be evaluated with an GR&R.

If there is not any procedure specified to evaluate this kind of application, dont you think the best way is to verify the parts coming out of the process are ok? So, the first evaluation made was a capability study.

Any way I'm here to hear and learn, so your opinions are very much appreciated.
 
W

wmchale

#5
How is the in-line gage calibrated? When the gage measures a component does it give a value? Is it possible to make a number of measurements on the gage without grinding them after?
I may be able to give better direction if you can answer these questions.
Regards
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
D Using "Particle Size Standard" templates as gauges - How to avoid giving a gauge # while using for process control? General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 2
Q Gauge R & R for Service Process - Call Center Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 7
D Ford MSA - Ford TYPE 1 study on a Marposs post process gauge Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 5
K Gauge R&R For before - after process Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 4
C Gauge R&R Studies Bad, but Process has a Cmk of over 7 IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 8
N Help with understanding Process Controls Manufacturing and Related Processes 4
M VDA 6.3 – Workshop for Certified Process Auditor VDA Standards - Germany's Automotive Standards 0
C Process Consistency Manufacturing and Related Processes 5
I PFD (Process Flow Diagram) approach. Setup details as part of PFD? Manufacturing and Related Processes 3
K Business Process Flowchart Process Maps, Process Mapping and Turtle Diagrams 2
L Looking for Control Plan and FMEA Stamping process FMEA and Control Plans 2
J License renewal process in Iran Other Medical Device Regulations World-Wide 0
J Definition Outsourced process - Clear definition - 13485 Definitions, Acronyms, Abbreviations and Interpretations Listed Alphabetically 5
S IS0 13485 process flows ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 2
H Verification Process for the existing MDS Product IEC 62304 - Medical Device Software Life Cycle Processes 5
C Revalidation of Process Equipment for Equipment Transfered to New Facility. ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 5
Q Process map Evaluation and Analysis Method Process Maps, Process Mapping and Turtle Diagrams 5
S In process inspection Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
S Brexit 100% inspection during in process inspection Manufacturing and Related Processes 11
A Complaint review as part of the complaint handling process? ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 3
mustomutlu Process Validation Final Report Other Medical Device and Orthopedic Related Topics 2
Q Process Matrix_Audit Matrix Quality Management System (QMS) Manuals 4
Q Process description for outsourced processes ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 5
Q Process matrix examples of ISO 9001 & 14001 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 2
J Need Help with FPY Data in Assembly Process Manufacturing and Related Processes 7
A When someone refuses to follow a process.... Misc. Quality Assurance and Business Systems Related Topics 27
E Software maintenance Process Software maintenance Process to IEC 6204? IEC 62304 - Medical Device Software Life Cycle Processes 3
R AS5553 Clause 3.1.7 f - "Implement a returns process....." AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 5
normhowe "The Problem with Quality Management: Process orientation, controllability and zero-defect processes as modern myths" Book, Video, Blog and Web Site Reviews and Recommendations 2
Judy Abbott General temperature used in the blasting process and laser process Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
B SOP for CNC turret punching machine for sheet metal process Manufacturing and Related Processes 0
A API Monogram audit review process Oil and Gas Industry Standards and Regulations 4
R AS9102 FAI Change in Material / Process Supplier AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 4
A Process mapping Process Maps, Process Mapping and Turtle Diagrams 1
R MDEL Process Canada Medical Device Regulations 4
optomist1 Rates Daily or Hourly Process Improvement Training Consultants and Consulting 2
S Manufacturing Process FDA FOIA Medical Device and FDA Regulations and Standards News 3
S Manufacturing Process FDA FOIA US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 4
B Toyota PPAP Process - Three Questions APQP and PPAP 4
R Changes vs CMO - How can we simplify this process? Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 3
A Ethics Committee Review Process for IVD Products EU Medical Device Regulations 2
V Laser Welding Process - Impact on Electrical Properties Reliability Analysis - Predictions, Testing and Standards 4
Q Process: Knowledge Section 7.1.6 of ISO 9001:2015 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 10
L Documented Information in Internal Audits Process (9.2) ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 4
A Sampling plan for in-process QC (medical devices) Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 13
rerusk1 MRB (Material Review Board) Process using MS Sharepoint or MS Teams Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
M Clinical Benefit of device that only aids in a process for managing or treating disease EU Medical Device Regulations 2
C In-process inspection - Tooling and assembly lines for automotive companies AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 6
M Efficacy of an IT process after a cyber attack ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 2
N Sterilization Protocol Change in Validation Process and further impacts ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 1

Similar threads

Top Bottom