So, it's real.
Ken K said:
We explained to him most of our training took place pre QS / ISO and our company did not start keeping these records until 1995.
He told us to "Grand Father" us in. Just make up a form and list all our training from pre 1995. Need to list all names of associates who might have helped train us, schooling, seminars, etc.
Seems like a simple solution.
Ken/Mike S.,
So, it appears that using the words "Grand Father"
is the way to go. Our Consultant is far more experienced with Auditor's views on this than I, so we'll work on it.
Ken,
All we have on the personnel (Grand Fathers) is their employment history showing their experience in the skill sets
they determined that they would like to see "new" people trained in. Like, I did a training schedule for an Inspector and a Qual Manager. Currently, I fill both positions. I used a "wish list" approach on what I would like to see for someone to have or learn to replace me. Don't get funny. I'm not in the mood.
So, our Engineering Managers show experience in "Project Management" at another Company. They set the whole Engineering Department up, so they are "competent". I believe I have enough input to do it satisfactorily.
But, Mike has thrown an unexpected twist in. Training in the QMS. Now, that's scary. They have "training" in some level 2's and are familiar with the other mandatory procedures. We are probably going to experience some flak in that method of "familiarization". We currently release documents through written notification with an individual Acknowledgement sheet that includes a statement that they read and understood the contents and would refer to them on a routine basis, if required. I keep these records in my office. maybe I'll just stick them in their personnel folder's training section and be done with it.
Their training schedules are devoid of any mention of QMS Training.
I love practical solutions, Gentlemen. Thanks again.
