Backstory, I just got hired here about 4 months ago but have a long history of working in aerospace manufacturing facilities (purchasing).
OK, so we are a "heading" manufacturer of socket head screws etc... I have a few questions about the tooling and it's applicability to any AS or ISO requirements.
The Quality Dept. and most everyone else treats the dies, punches, and other tooling required to "head" fasteners as nothing important. Like other cutting tools we buy from MSC let's say.. (This tooling is creating the shape of the fasteners, how could it NOT be important?)
For each tool (die, punch, hammer, knock out pin), we create it's own drawing with revisions, etc.. and supply those to the vendor with each new PO.
The fact that we created a drawing with revisions, doesn't that mean we need to be inspecting every new lot or item to that drawing? Checking if it's got the RC required per that drawing? Was the correct material used as per the drawing? (Management thinking is "the suppliers know what we want, and we trust them to make as per the print so we don't need to check it..) OMG !!! Really??
These items do not get "inspected" by the Quality Dept. like the coil wire (raw material) does. They have the tool crib people just doing some simple caliper checks of dimensions when they come in from our suppliers. (Doesn't that mean they should be "trained" to do this task? Shouldn't it be in their job description?)
I've also seen some "rejections" to the suppliers for not meeting the dimensions on our print. (Why are we NCRing something that "isn't important" - When we do, aren't we now saying "it's important"?) I'm new to this company and it smells like a potential finding but I can't seem to get anyone to agree with me. What part of which standard proves my point? Or I am concerned about things I shouldn't be? Thank you for your input!
OK, so we are a "heading" manufacturer of socket head screws etc... I have a few questions about the tooling and it's applicability to any AS or ISO requirements.
The Quality Dept. and most everyone else treats the dies, punches, and other tooling required to "head" fasteners as nothing important. Like other cutting tools we buy from MSC let's say.. (This tooling is creating the shape of the fasteners, how could it NOT be important?)
For each tool (die, punch, hammer, knock out pin), we create it's own drawing with revisions, etc.. and supply those to the vendor with each new PO.
The fact that we created a drawing with revisions, doesn't that mean we need to be inspecting every new lot or item to that drawing? Checking if it's got the RC required per that drawing? Was the correct material used as per the drawing? (Management thinking is "the suppliers know what we want, and we trust them to make as per the print so we don't need to check it..) OMG !!! Really??
These items do not get "inspected" by the Quality Dept. like the coil wire (raw material) does. They have the tool crib people just doing some simple caliper checks of dimensions when they come in from our suppliers. (Doesn't that mean they should be "trained" to do this task? Shouldn't it be in their job description?)
I've also seen some "rejections" to the suppliers for not meeting the dimensions on our print. (Why are we NCRing something that "isn't important" - When we do, aren't we now saying "it's important"?) I'm new to this company and it smells like a potential finding but I can't seem to get anyone to agree with me. What part of which standard proves my point? Or I am concerned about things I shouldn't be? Thank you for your input!