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High number of certificate suspensions in the IAQG OASIS database

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Sidney Vianna

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To me, it does show that the IAQG oversight is working and the stakeholders are being kept accountable to the expectation of certification integrity.
And, to me this is the critical aspect of this data. For the pundits who continually claim that the 3rd party certification system can't work because the CB's have no incentive in de-certifying their clients, this data shows that, WHEN ACCOUNTABILITY IS MANDATED, CB's do de-certify systems or risk being removed from the scheme altogether.
 

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The entire certification seems madly circular. If CAPA was truly effective then only one finding theoretically should ever be written since all clauses are coveres during certification. If more finding are found in subsequent audits then preventive action was never truly effective. Nor was the judgement of the auditor. Also whats with the rediculous name "veto board"? Couldn't they come up with something positive instead of
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The entire certification seems madly circular. If CAPA was truly effective then only one finding theoretically should ever be written since all clauses are coveres during certification. If more finding are found in subsequent audits then preventive action was never truly effective. Nor was the judgement of the auditor.
I don't follow your logic here. Based on what you say and extending it, after implementing a QMS and going through the first round of corrective actions, every company should be perfect and never ever ever ever again have a defective product nor any hint of customer dissatisfaction. If that didn't happen, it is because the quality manager never managed to implemented true corrective actions.
 

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If CAPA was truly effective then only one finding theoretically should ever be written since all clauses are coveres during certification.
I assume you are referring to compliance to the standard. Is that correct?
 

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And, to me this is the critical aspect of this data. For the pundits who continually claim that the 3rd party certification system can't work because the CB's have no incentive in de-certifying their clients, this data shows that, WHEN ACCOUNTABILITY IS MANDATED, CB's do de-certify systems or risk being removed from the scheme altogether.
Just ran the numbers again and, there were close to 1,000 deletions, withdrawals and suspensions reported in OASIS for the last 6 months. There are approximately 23,500 AS91X0 around the World, at present.
 

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