How can we satisfy TS 16949 Clause 7.1.1 - Quality Plan - Visteon Supplier

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knight_sirk

#1
hi to all!

Please help! Our company is planning to get TS16949 cert and since it is a requirement of Visteon.
But i would like to know, how can we satisfy TS requirement 7.1.1? which states "quality plan"?
I am developing our "quality plan" of all our Automotive customer w/ TS requirement & specific requirements other than stated in TS.
(kindly see attached file "quality plan")
Please feedback any concern if we are doing it right.
Does the "Quality Plan" alone, already satisfy 7.1.1 requirement?
or Should the CSR be reflected in our procedures/manuals?
in your experience, how did your company satisfy this requirement?

Thank you very much in advance,
IAN
 

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antoine.dias

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Quality plan

knight_sirk said:
hi to all!

Please help! Our company is planning to get TS16949 cert and since it is a requirement of Visteon.
But i would like to know, how can we satisfy TS requirement 7.1.1? which states "quality plan"?
I am developing our "quality plan" of all our Automotive customer w/ TS requirement & specific requirements other than stated in TS.
(kindly see attached file "quality plan")
Please feedback any concern if we are doing it right.
Does the "Quality Plan" alone, already satisfy 7.1.1 requirement?
or Should the CSR be reflected in our procedures/manuals?
in your experience, how did your company satisfy this requirement?

Thank you very much in advance,
IAN
In the ISO TS 16949 there are 4 references to " the quality plan ":
7.1 - note 1 / 7.1.2 / 7.5.1.2 / Annex A

If you put those comments together you will have to come up with something different to fulfil the intention of a quality plan.

The intention of a quality plan is best described in note 1 of 7.1 :
NOTE 1 A document specifying the processes of the quality management system (including the product realization processes) and the resources to be applied to a specific product, project or contract, can be referred to as a quality plan.

This means that a combination of all your efforts to make sure that all customer (and your own) requirements will be fulfilled can be seen as a quality plan.

In our quality plan you can find items like:

- A process flowchart (to make sure every necessary step is considered)
- Design & Process FMEA (to check on the risks and to avoid/reduce them)
- Control plan (how we have control in the processes)
- Actions to make our processes robuster (can be SPC, DOE, MSA, ...)
- Actions to make a requirement "guaranteed by design"
- All Poka Yoke efforts
- In some cases 100% final inspection
- ......
As you can see this is not at all in one document - but IMO it does not have to.
I did not say we have the best of the best, but this works for us.

Hope this helps for you.

Best regards,
Antoine
 
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knight_sirk

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Thank you very much for your fast reply.

As you can see in my attachment (previous post) theres a column for "Company Standard/Procedure Reference" in which our main idea is to reflect our standard or procedure that will satisfy/comply both TS16949 & Customer Specific Requirements.

Your inputs are noted, that our quality plan may contain not only one document.

May i ask if you could provide your format of your Quality Plan?
Just to give some idea to simplify our format.

And also, do you do "Process Mapping"?
Could it also be referenced to our Quality Plan?

Thank you very much
 
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heretolearn

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Quality Plan example

"7.1.1. Planning of product realization - Supplemental."

The Quality Plan we believe is intended to be an overview document, showing the planned sequential activities of the product realization process.

Using the example provided, Visteon's technicial specifications would be an intregal part of our Design & Development process, most :cool: specifically within; Stage 1 Assessment, Stage 2 Development, and Stage 3 Scale Up.
 

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antoine.dias

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Quality plan

I like your quality plan as a good basis.

I am sure we all appreciate that "heretolearn" is also "heretogive".

Best regards,

Antoine
 
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E. Naranjo

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I would take the first approach: Take the Quality Plan as an overall document. As a summary of different activities. But don't develop an specific plan for Visteon unless it is required by the SDE. That is the intent of TS16949.
 
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heretolearn

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Visteon

The use of Visteon's name was meaningless as it could and should have been substituted with "the customer's." The Quality Plan example was provided to show how a product development document could sequentially itemize pre-planned activites and then show notation as these activities (milestones) were completed.

I would never expect a Visteon SDE to see (or inquire about) such a document unless as a supplier we were always submitting late PPAPs.
 
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