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So, reading another thread yesterday I came upon a post by one of our forum member Big Jim which contained the following. Go ahead and read it carefully, if you will:
I wanted to talk about it, but I didn't want to take the topic of that thread too far afield. I messaged Big Jim asking him to discuss it in another thread I’d here create, starting with the quote itself, but he hasn't replied to PM message yet. Supposedly, the idea is that Big Jim or others will post below to expand on and clarify or refute his thoughts –- specially, regarding unnecessary recording of approvals (though he may need to speak more broadly to make his points). Let me cite 2 unanswered questions from the original thread:
1) How can you show that approval precede the document’s release date?
2) How the verbal approver can recall all her/his verbal approval for each release of the documents in case auditor request?
For people who are reading this, on either "side" of the "debate," or not on a side at all: if you would like to join the discussions – welcome!
So, Big Jim, if you would like to expand on and your quote above, sir, then I happily say: the floor is yours. How can you audit past verbal approvals against 4.2.3a?
Approval is necessary. Recording the approval is not.
1) How can you show that approval precede the document’s release date?
2) How the verbal approver can recall all her/his verbal approval for each release of the documents in case auditor request?
For people who are reading this, on either "side" of the "debate," or not on a side at all: if you would like to join the discussions – welcome!
So, Big Jim, if you would like to expand on and your quote above, sir, then I happily say: the floor is yours. How can you audit past verbal approvals against 4.2.3a?