How long have you been visiting the Cove Forums? Vintage Cove!

[Mike S.]

Separate discussions on "tools" sounds okay to me. The more info the better. I think though that "tools" threads may have gotten less than ideal traffic in the past because it is harder to explain/teach the use of Q tools in a post than to answer a question about a section of ISO and that it is easier to find other sources on tools (which tend to be a little less philosophical and open to interpretation). I would suggest starting with something on the simpler side to start and see how it goes.

 

[Claes Gefvenberg]

Yes... I think you may be right. I suppose the best way to explain improvement tools would be by example?

/Claes

 

[Allie]

When I started my present job in Oct/2002, I had no idea QS9000 was heading out the door and a new standard was issued. I had taken a two year break from automotive and worked in the animal feed industry doing a HACCP (food industry quality standard)implementation. I had never heard of TS16949. So here I sat, QM of a start up company implementing a new standard and not a clue. A personal friend of mine (Xman to the cove) steered me in this direction and it has been my biggest resource yet. I found that different opinions on the same subject are invaluable. Anyhoo, thank you to anyone who ever made a post here, you have been my savour!


Allie

 

[db]

How much do you REALLY appreciate

Okay, let's get down to the bottom line. I know Marc would never say this, but I will. I own several sites and I know that it cost $$$ to run and pay for the bandwidth. So......

How much do you REALLY appreciate this site? To help out visit this thread:

http://elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3597


Put your money where your accolades are. (yes, I did).

 

[Marc]

Re: My 2 paise

Atul Khandekar said:

My initial impression of the Cove being predominantly 'American', wore off as my posts were answered and occasionally appreciated. The 'family' kind of accepted and adopted me. (However, I did get a strange feeling recently, that - at least in one of the threads - a non-american viewpoint was probably not welcome. I hope I am completely wrong.)

There are biased (ignorant) people everywhere. I have strived to ensure that EVERY individual, regardless of nationality or other 'typecasting', is welcome here. You are an integral part of our 'family' and have been for quite a while. We are people doing our jobs and let's face it - politics, while some discussions are tolerated in individual threads, is not an issue in our professional discussions.

Our governments play politics and tell us who we should trust, etc., but the reality is as individuals - face - to face - so to speak, politics is not an issue. People helping people is non-political.

Your involvement is appreciated. :thedeal:

 

[Atul Khandekar]

Re: Re: My 2 paise

Thank you Dave, Claes and Marc for your comments.

I think a little clarification on my part is in order.
When I said 'American', I did not mean it in any 'political' sense at all. I was just referring to the fact that majority of the members and top posters (with the exception of Howard Atkins and a couple others) came from the american continent. As I have said I soon realized that I was indeed wrong as I found that the discussions were truly professional, not focused only on local issues and that all views were/are welcome. Now of course, we have a lot more representation from other countries as well. We also have a Spanish language forum.

Marc said:
... but the reality is as individuals - face - to face - so to speak, politics is not an issue. People helping people is non-political.

Quite true! In an open international quality forum like this one, I would not like to participate in a political and/or religious discussions beyond a certain limit. This is just my personal choice.

Regards,

- Atul.

 

[Roger Eastin]

Marc - thanks for staying with this forum for so long. It has been a great, great benefit to me. It has been very helpful to get input from so many other people that are much smarter at this than I am! I started visiting this site back in 1997 and have benefited from it ever since.

 

[Mike S.]

Re: Re: My 2 paise

Marc said:

There are biased (ignorant) people everywhere.

Marc,

For the record I'd like to say that I think there is a big difference between bias and ignorance. The dictionary says bias is "a preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment" while ignorance is "Lacking education or knowledge; unaware or uninformed". I am biased on many issues, as are you, but that does not necessarily make us ignorant on those same issues. JMO.

 

[db]

Bias and Ignorance

Mike, I submit that sometimes it is our ignorance that creates our bias. Other times our bias springs out of our intelligence and/or understanding.

And bias is not always bad. I have several routes to travel to and from work. My bias leads me to the dirt roads that are less traveled, and more serene. It might take me longer (no time-bias), but I arrive home (or at work) in a much more relaxed state.

 

[Mike S.]

db,

Agreed. I think you just restated the last line of my previous post, perhaps more clearly.