How Long Will QS-9000 be 'Valid'?

[Andrews]

Validity of QS9000

I have heard from a few reliable sources that the 3rd edition of QS9000 may stay in effect beyond the 15th Dec 2003 target date (that was set for transition for ISO9001/2:1994 to ISO9001:2000). Has any one else heard of similar statements?

 

[Marc]

I'm sure companies like Caterpillar will hold onto it for a while. They like the APQP part as well as the structured approach. But as far as being a requirement from the originators (Ford, GM and Chrysler) QS-9000 is obviously a thing of the past. I'm sure registrars will continue to register companies to it as long as there's a market.

This had been discussed in a number of threads here.

 

[Dawn]

I wish I could get some real input on this subject. I have in writing from the AIAG that we will have until 2006 but they state they have not informed registrars of this yet.
I have in writing from the registrar that I have until 2003 to become compliant to ISO 2002 to keep our QS 9000 registration or they take the QS cert away.
The biggest trip is our certification expires in September of this year and I dont know what the ---- I should have in compliance to get audited.

 

[Forum Administrator]

Originally posted by Dawn
I have in writing from the AIAG that we will have until 2006 but they state they have not informed registrars of this yet.

I have in writing from the registrar that I have until 2003 to become compliant to ISO 2002 to keep our QS 9000 registration or they take the QS cert away.

I believe the AIAG. The document will stay the same with the 1994 verbiage and registrars will continue to register companies as long as there are companies that want (are required to be) registered.

 

[John Swartz]

Let's not forget QS9000 w/ TE

As a tier 1 & 2 TE supplier to the B3, my concern has been not only the possible abandonment of QS9000 after 2003, but also that failure of TS16949 to address TE suppliers. I have received no word from my B3 contacts, the AIAG, RAB, or ISO regarding this minor inconvenience.

Does anyone have information regarding this issue?

John

 

[Dawn]

What a suprise! (Thank You)

 

[Ken K]

The individual OEM members of the IATF, including DaimlerChrysler, General Motors, Ford, Fiat, PSA Peugeot Citroën, Renault, BMW and Volkswagen, are now in the process of formulating or announcing their policies for implementation of the technical specification by their respective supply bases.

Probably the most important part of the press release. As usual, this could get interesting.

Thanks for the link Jim.

 

[Marc]

> could get interesting...

Has been, is and will be for some time to come...

"The anticipated use of ISO/TS 16949:2002 by the automotive industry worldwide also signals that the goal of converging sector-specific initiatives on to the foundation of ISO 9001:2000 is a realistic one."

Nor am I convinced this is strictly true. Europe and the US - yes, but.... :thedeal:

 

[Dawn]

Ken,

You can also smile cuz NOONE know what's going on. I believe that was the initial plan to keep tier one suppliers from going ballistic on the big 3. Our registrar heard from me that we would have until Dec. 2006 - not from the AIAG.

 

[Randy Stewart]

At the Ford meeting for Q1 T&E suppliers last year we were told that the B3 were buying the rights to the '94 version so it could be used until they could come up with some other standard for us to register too.
From what I have seen TS fits better than QS did in the T&E field. Just another one of those "Resistence is Futile" type issues.