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How many companies have lost their ISO 9001 registration involuntarily?

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scbiswas

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Companies lost their ISO 9001 registration

ISO survey 2003 mentions 10-15% companies have lost registration, mostly during transition period. However, a few have decided not to continue with registration for business compulsions (closure or poor financial reason). A few have lost interest or lacks guidance from consultant or cerification bodies during surveillance or recertification stage. CRBs also de-register companies when they do not respond to notices for surveillance or Re-certification audits.

One can safely assume that 10% of the organizations surrender or do not renew their certificates.

Subhas Biswas
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SSwanson

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I don't know of any companies that "lost" their certification because of failures in an existing QMS. Lets remember what many of you have pointed out: Certification companies are in business too.

I was surprised to see that someone posted that after three major NCRs, the company halted the audit. If I did that, I might not have any customers left sometimes. What I mean is, there is always the possibility to make the corrective actions and stopping that audit is extreme.

I have been known to fail companies during pre audits... and have follow up audits... which are not the same thing.

There have been many companies that migth be listed as losing their certification in Germany, for example, but the reason is not that they failed their responsibilities to a QMS, but rather, the economic stituation made the certification cost too expensive or the company simply went out of business and was placed on a defunct list.
 

Sidney Vianna

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Agree. I have already taken steps to communicate with the IAF and ISO on this, and the IAF initial reaction was favorable.
There is hope, I guess. I see a new feature in the ANAB website:


Under Construction

“Certification Totals” is a new feature of ANAB’s site. Data totals refer to ANAB-accredited certificates issued by ANAB-accredited certification bodies (CBs). Certificates accredited by other accreditation bodies and unaccredited certificates are not included in totals. Data can be filtered by CB name, country, standard, and/or any combination of these.

CBs are asked to update the data at least quarterly, but ANAB cannot guarantee that the data reflects complete and accurate information on total ANAB-accredited certificates at a given time.

Please note: Data is unavailable at this time but will be added in the near future.
 

Sidney Vianna

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the database seems useless....i searched for QMI, ISO 9001 and Canada and i got ZERO....oh well :bonk:
That is why I said that is partially populated. Not all CB's have sent their data yet. If you leave the CB blank, chose Canada and ISO 9001, you will get 2058 certificates and information on how many each CB has issued.
 

Sidney Vianna

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I find interesting that several US based CB's have not provided their numbers to the ANAB database. I wonder what they are concerned with...:notme: Maybe some previous claims have been overstated and inflated and would not support the factual approach to decision making principle....

Two weeks ago in Dallas, an ANAB representative had stated that the provision of data was mandatory...Looks like some CB's don't know the meaning of that word. Or ANAB can not enforce it....;)
 
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