SBS - The best value in QMS software

How to calculate tolerance intervals for non-normal data?

Elsmar Forum Sponsor
D

Dr. Electron

#12
learner777 said:
Hello All,

I am a new guy here. First, I would like to thank the forum creators and participants. It is a cool place!

I have a question which made me find this place :). I was asked to calculate the tolerance intervals for a given sample size for non-normal data ( say Weibull ) with certain confidence level and reliability ( population within the tolerance limits ). I was able to do this by using the homegrown software. However, I want to know the math ( simplified if possible ) beyond that. For normal data , it seems, I have found papers desribing the math. I would highly appreciate if anybody could help me find/understand the math for non-normal data.


Regards,
learner

Hi learner...you could also use the method Juran pointed out in his Quality Control Handbook. Section 22 pg 54 (22-54). Using table W and table X...how high does your confidence interval need to be? To use this at 95/95 you'll need a sample size of 93. With n=100 your "k" will be 0.954.
 
N

nwillnow

#13
I didn't want to bother opening a new thread because my question seems to fall within this discussion.

If I'm trying to show confidence and reliability (95/95) that my tolerance interval is within a set specification limit, does my data have to be normal?

My quality system is written such that to validate any process output, I need a minimum of 30 data samples. At which point I perform an x +/- ks calc and compare to my spec limit. Where K is the one or two-sided statistical tolerance limit taken from Lieberman's 'Industrial Quality Control' or from Statgraphics.

The problem is just about every validation I do yields many sets of data that are not normal. I look at historical reports and see that most people just overlook this fact, perform the calculation, see that they pass, and file the findings. I've tried transforming the data, which often is possible using one of the many options available in MiniTAB, but once the data is transformed I can't reference my spec limit to check for confidence and reliability.

Any thoughts?
 

Statistical Steven

Statistician
Staff member
Super Moderator
#14
nwillnow said:
I didn't want to bother opening a new thread because my question seems to fall within this discussion.

If I'm trying to show confidence and reliability (95/95) that my tolerance interval is within a set specification limit, does my data have to be normal?

My quality system is written such that to validate any process output, I need a minimum of 30 data samples. At which point I perform an x +/- ks calc and compare to my spec limit. Where K is the one or two-sided statistical tolerance limit taken from Lieberman's 'Industrial Quality Control' or from Statgraphics.

The problem is just about every validation I do yields many sets of data that are not normal. I look at historical reports and see that most people just overlook this fact, perform the calculation, see that they pass, and file the findings. I've tried transforming the data, which often is possible using one of the many options available in MiniTAB, but once the data is transformed I can't reference my spec limit to check for confidence and reliability.

Any thoughts?
If a transformation on your data gives a normal distribution, you would use the same transformation on your specification or I prefer to just back transform the output of the tolerance interval. Remember, that back transforming your tolerance interval will usually give nonsymmetrical limits.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
G Should I calculate both Cp and Cpk for a Unilateral Tolerance? Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 8
A How to calculate Cpk & Ppk if the tolerance changes during the period? Capability, Accuracy and Stability - Processes, Machines, etc. 5
S PPAP - How to calculate tolerance on basic dimension APQP and PPAP 5
C Tolerance and Uncertainty have the same Symbol - How to Calculate the Tolerance Measurement Uncertainty (MU) 1
F How to Calculate Cpk with only a Minimum Tolerance Capability, Accuracy and Stability - Processes, Machines, etc. 11
T How do I calculate Capability or Performance for S-Type Tolerance Capability, Accuracy and Stability - Processes, Machines, etc. 4
H Use SPC to Calculate Correlation Device Tolerance - Hybrid Electronic Components Capability, Accuracy and Stability - Processes, Machines, etc. 3
M How do I Calculate a Weight Tolerance? Plastic Injection Moulding Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 18
X Calculating Tolerance with One Sided Limits - Need a Form to Calculate Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 6
S Bend allowance formula to calculate per degree per radii Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
P Commercial excel templates that calculate overhead, hourly rates, fee proposal Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 0
M How to calculate benefits? Moving some developed non controlled software/automation systems Service Industry Specific Topics 2
qualprod Calculate number of people in processes, considering cycle time/takt time = quantity of people Lean in Manufacturing and Service Industries 9
S How to calculate the maximum allowable hysteresis of a pressure gauge General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 1
S How to Calculate the producer Risk AQL - Acceptable Quality Level 25
qualprod Methods to Calculate Available Production Rate ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 0
K Why calculate LCL in P-chart? Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 4
B How to calculate CPK with n = 1 Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
A Add-On software for VMC to calculate setting time, Idle Time, OEE etc.. Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
L How to calculate the Probability of Deficiency of the AQL of an Inspection AQL - Acceptable Quality Level 16
V How to Calculate Unbiasing Constant C4 Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 1
J How to Calculate OEE Indicator for a Workshop (15 Machines) Lean in Manufacturing and Service Industries 6
R How to calculate UCL (Upper COntrol Limit) and LCL (Lower Control Limit) Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 5
T I want to calculate reliability at 750 hours Reliability Analysis - Predictions, Testing and Standards 8
R How To Calculate & Print CDF and Lower Bound CDF value for some t(time) with Minitab? Using Minitab Software 1
N How to calculate the Premium Freight charges Service Industry Specific Topics 4
A How to calculate Mean and standard deviation without sample size in Minitab Using Minitab Software 5
R When do I need to calculate Process OEE? Manufacturing and Related Processes 12
kedarg6500 How to calculate Thread Pitch Diameter for non standard TPI like 5/8" 17.75 NF3 Manufacturing and Related Processes 3
C Definition and Way to Calculate some Metrics Lean in Manufacturing and Service Industries 6
M How calculate P value for Linearity and Bias using Excel Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 8
N Formula that will calculate the NoGo Major Diameter of an M20 x 1.5 6H Thread gage Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 3
M How to calculate Cg and Cgk for a 2-Dimensional Area Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 4
T Calculation Question - Calculate the runner weight for a part Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
M Spreadsheet on How to Calculate SMT Capacity wanted Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
F How to Calculate the unbiased Standard Deviation in Excel using Minitab Formula Capability, Accuracy and Stability - Processes, Machines, etc. 6
S Spreadsheet that will Calculate Audit Duration times based on IAF MD5 and MD11 Excel .xls Spreadsheet Templates and Tools 7
M Calculate PPMs by going back to Date of Production or Date Noticed Quality Tools, Improvement and Analysis 7
M How to calculate MTTF (Mean Time to Failure) Reliability Analysis - Predictions, Testing and Standards 1
H How to calculate the Lot Reject Rate Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 4
L How calculate the number of samples Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 2
A Simple 125 piece part Capabilty Excel .xls sheet to calculate Cpk Capability, Accuracy and Stability - Processes, Machines, etc. 3
R How to calculate MMC when is placed after datum Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 4
S Which one is better to calculate, Cpk or Ppk? Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 11
C How to calculate P value on Probability Plot Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 1
S Supplier Disruption Score and how to calculate it Quality Tools, Improvement and Analysis 4
D IAQG OASIS - New tool to calculate Audit Time AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 1
M How to calculate dimensions of trapezoid ? Quality Tools, Improvement and Analysis 3
J How to calculate Surveillance Audit Days in Corporate Audit Scheme IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 4
S How to calculate Supplier PPM at Receiving Inspection Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 2

Similar threads

Top Bottom