How to check for validity of registration scope during ISO9001:2008 external audit

L

Libnani

#1
Dear all

Could you please advise how to check the validity of the certificate scope during an external audit to ISO9001:2008.

For example if the scope of company is :
"Design and manufacturing of accessories for ambulances made in steel , stainless steel , alumium , wood , plyester , kevlar"

should i check records of manufacturing for all these type of accessories and records of design for all these types ?
Maybe they did not produce Kevlar accesories , how can i validate the scope without seeing records of all materilals?

Another example
"Training and Recruitment agency "
I checked processes and procedures . i found that there is a recruitment process , but no records and no one apply till now. it will be acceptable as scope? or i should see records of ppl recruited?
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor

DannyK

Trusted Information Resource
#2
Re: How to check for a validity of a scope during ISO9001:2008 external audit

If you do not see evidence of some of the materials, ask the customer why it is in the scope. They may want to create a more general scope.

For the training and recruitment scope, look for their readiness to comply. Ask them questions and see if their answers correspond to the procedure.
 
#3
Re: How to check for validity of registration scope during ISO9001:2008 external audi

The scope statement represents the processes and activities the quality management system applies to. If there is no evidence that they have ever implemented a process or activity of the scope, then it can't be claimed in that scope! This is not a 'we could do XX', it's a 'we do do XX'

Otherwise we'd all be claiming to be rocket scientists...........:lol:
 
J

JaneB

#4
Re: How to check for validity of registration scope during ISO9001:2008 external audi

This is not a 'we could do XX', it's a 'we do do XX'

Otherwise we'd all be claiming to be rocket scientists...........:lol:
Speak for yourself. :lol: My company could be inventing a cure for cancer. ;)
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
D IATF portal for TS 16949 Certificate Validity Check IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 2
M IATF 16949 8.5.1.3 Verification of job set-ups - Do we need secondary check? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 7
J Standard used to determine if check fixture gauge is acceptable Reliability Analysis - Predictions, Testing and Standards 2
M MDR requires the NB to perform "tests in order to check that the quality management system" EU Medical Device Regulations 3
G Is it common to do a repeatability check during calibration of an instrument? General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 5
V CAPA effectiveness check Nonconformance and Corrective Action 3
A Statistical Analysis - Check if these organisms at different concentrations affect the growth of wheat seedlings Using Minitab Software 4
G Oversized Threads - What sized stab pin would be best to quickly check for oversized thread holes General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 5
G Stab Pin Size For Check Gage Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 3
B AS9110 Audit Check Sheet wanted Excel or Word Document AS9100, IAQG 9100, Nadcap and related Aerospace Standards and Requirements 2
J AQL for Effectiveness Check - What AQL tiers to use on this type of sampling? Nonconformance and Corrective Action 9
G From an ISO 17025 auditor perspective must micrometer calibration check anvil flatness? General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 4
F Position tolerance check gage manufacturing Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 8
S The procedure for replicate check in calibration lab as per ISO 17025 General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 2
F Design check list for Cable and Wiring Harnesses Manufacturing and Related Processes 6
R Mass production handover check sheet (IATF 16949) IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 1
bobdoering Handy training tip for SPC - the Check Engine Light Analogy Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 0
R Please help me with attached copy of AS 9100D internal audit check sheet AS9100, IAQG 9100, Nadcap and related Aerospace Standards and Requirements 2
G What to Check - Set Up vs. In Process Inspections Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 6
B FDA Philippines has no check or balance outside the health department Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 3
Crusader Product Completion, Birth Cert, Product Check sheet - packaged with product Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 2
C Serialization at Final Quality Check ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 3
T Example System & Process Audit Check Sheet for IATF 16949 IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 1
L Signal-to-Noise (S/N) Ratio formula check Design and Development of Products and Processes 2
M AS9100 7.6 - Check Method - PO Information AS9100, IAQG 9100, Nadcap and related Aerospace Standards and Requirements 4
S GR&R for a Stopwatch used to check a built-in Machine Timer Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 6
R ISO 13485:2016 Clause 6.2 - Effectiveness Check ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 1
P Looking for a company local in Wyandotte, Mi, to come in check noise levels Manufacturing and Related Processes 2
M Difference between a "check" and a "test" Manufacturing and Related Processes 7
M Proper Gauging - GD&T - Attribute gage to check true positioning on the shop floor Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 6
S How to check runout on Id to ID diameters Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 2
Y Is it possible to check the authenticity of a CFDA registration certificate? China Medical Device Regulations 7
M More than canned audit check-sheets? Auditing the Engineering Department Process Audits and Layered Process Audits 5
P Searching for a complete audit check list based on ISO14001:2004 ISO 14001:2015 Specific Discussions 1
V Internal Audit using Plan, Do, Check, Act - Way to go? Internal Auditing 11
S Elisa kits for poultry disease check up companies US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 3
F Check List and Questions for Auditing Monitoring and Measuring Devices General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 1
E How to perform Discrimination check for Dial Indicator? General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 2
B How to check the parallelism error of v axis w.r.t to lateral surfaces General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 1
L Most appropriate Auditor to check the FMEA & PCP of a Manufacturing Process IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 5
K Too Simple an Internal Audit Check Sheet? Internal Auditing 10
D Samples & Inspection Check Sheet Templates Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 2
Q Chrysler required FMEA and Control Plan Document Audit Forms and Process Audit Check FMEA and Control Plans 6
B Capability Study => Check %Study Variance and NDC? Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 7
C Ways to check to see if the gage is being used General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 11
H USFDA -QSR Audit Check List 21 CFR Part 820 - US FDA Quality System Regulations (QSR) 5
S Destructive Attribute MSA for Simple Water Leak Check in Trailers Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 5
L Quick way to check spline pitch runout for machine operators Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 1
C MSA-4 Attribute Kappa Template - Verification Check Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 5
C GR&R MSA-4 ANOVA Excel Template Verification Check wanted Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 5
Similar threads


















































Top Bottom