How to combine ISO 9001:2015 and ISO 29001:2010 into a single QMS

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Rabab

#1
Hi All,
Currently my organization management system is certified ISO 9001:2008 and ISO 29001: 2010.

Given the new requirements of ISO 9001:2015 , how I'm going to have one management system that reflects both ISO 9001: 2015 and ISO 29001:2010?

Appreciate your usual support.
Rabab
 
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yodon

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#2
I don't know ISO 29001 but I'm in a similar boat with ISO 13485 & 9001. In general, there will need to be more focus on risks (not just product risk) throughout so generally this should be a good thing (complementary - 13485 doesn't prohibit risk based thinking outside of product concerns).

Similarly, while the documentation requirements in 9001 somewhat evaporate, I still need them for 13485 so I'll keep my documents. 9001 won't prohibit using documents.

I expect you'll get better response if your question is more focused on a particular aspect.
 
R

Rabab

#3
Hi Jodon,
Many thanks for your reply.
you are right I should have a specific item to discuss.
ISO 29001 defines the quality management system for product and service supply organizations for the petroleum, petrochemical and natural gas industries.
it contains original ISO 9001:2008 text unaltered and specific supplemental requirements are added.

so as for the quality manual supplemental requirement I have to fulfill ISO9001:2008 requirement to get the certificate of ISO 29001 which is not required in ISO 9001:2015 as far as I understand.:frust:


 

John Broomfield

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Super Moderator
#4
Hi All,
Currently my organization management system is certified ISO 9001:2008 and ISO 29001: 2010.

Given the new requirements of ISO 9001:2015 , how I'm going to have one management system that reflects both ISO 9001: 2015 and ISO 29001:2010?

Appreciate your usual support.
Rabab
Rahab,

Your organization's process-based management can easily be changed to conform also to ISO 29001.

Simply identify the processes and controls separately specified by 29001 but missing from your management system. Then invest in making the missing processes and controls a reality.

Naturally, you'll document the procedures to effectively plan, operate, control and monitor these processes according to their importance to the success of your organization.

And you'll do this in consultation with top management (for the investment) and with the process owners (for their knowledge of their assigned processes).

You may then choose to describe your organization's management system, and how it delivers quality assurance, in a brief handout/webpage which top management could issue/use with their briefing on their management system to existing staff and incoming employees.

John
 
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