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Big Jim

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I'm not sure if this is the direction the OP was going, but I think performing reverse engineering does not necessarily keep you from claiming design as an exemption.

Is not the sample or model actually the design? If so, what you are doing is planning for production, not design. One of the notes in 7.1, Planning of product realization, says: "NOTE 2 The organization may also apply the requirements in 7.3 to the development of product realization processes." My take on that is that you can use the elements in 7.3 to help you plan for production without actually performing design.

Does anyone have a different perspective?
 
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Bottom line: From where do the drawings required to build the product come?

Answer: The OP's company.

Whether they originated the original "design" or not, they did originate engineering drawings. They also are forced to make engineering assumptions/decisions regarding the product, the materials used and the manufacturing process required to replicate the design.

Reverse Engineering implies more than mere copying and manufacturing.
 
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AndyN said:
The OP's customer is providing the sample......
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But if there's design information available, why does the OP's company need to reverse-engineer it? Why didn't they provide a drawing? For all we know, the customer found one in a cow pasture and asked the OP's company to duplicate it.
 
Sidney Vianna

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Just an :topic:comment.

Reverse engineering is a term that many people use when, in reality, they are doing intellectual property piracy, by attempting to replicate some one's else design.

Just like I would not assist anyone trying to calibrate centrifuges, I will refrain from assisting questionable deals.

Not implying anything about the OP.
 
Miner

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There are many legitimate uses of Reverse Engineering.


  • A company that originated the design goes out of business leaving a void that must be filled.

  • A customer paid for the design, including rights to the IP, but does not have the design documents. The customer chooses to change suppliers for various reasons.
I will presume the OP is doing this for legitimate reasons.
 
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Actually Bill Gates 'borrowed' Wikipedia reference-linkCP/M and 'lightly' modified it. He's lucky he got away with it. His smart move was to license 'his' software to IBM rather than sell it.

See: Wikipedia reference-linkTriumph_of_the_Nerds

Reverse engineering is very common.
 
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arin_23

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Instances of reverse enngineering is seen often in the IT field, and it is mainly done for preparation and design of the artifacts of the existing legacy systems.

This is widely practiced when a client wants a change of technology and wants to keep the business logic intact.

It requires a lot of effort and time to do this re-engineering and reverse engineening is an integrated part of this re-engineering.The standard product lifecycle is followed in reverse engineering and it is much similar to the D&D steps.

I understand the same logic shall be applicable to non IT reverse engineering process as well.

Regards,

Arin
 
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