How to Implement ISO 9001:2008 in a Power Plant

[qualitymanager]

Why?

Client-specific reasons.

I'll PM you.

 

[Stijloor]

Client-specific reasons.

I'll PM you.

Why not sharing with other Covers?

Stijloor.

 

[qualitymanager]

Client-specific reasons. Even beyond confidentiality requirements, public disclosure can possibly lead to civil and/or criminal prosecution.

I prefer to stay out of jail

 

[Stijloor]

Client-specific reasons. Even beyond confidentiality requirements, public disclosure can possibly lead to civil and/or criminal prosecution.

I prefer to stay out of jail

You can provide examples withour revealing your customer. Many of us here do.

Stijloor.

 

[qualitymanager]

I prefer not to say, for a number of reasons, including: things are different in my part of the world due in part to the scale (size).

We have 1 electricity generation company per country in the Caribbean. And there are only 15 member-countries in our regional community. I don't know of any currently certified, but by next year at least 1 will be certified to ISO 9001.

To amplify the picture: a region of 16 million (who knew there are ~9 million in Haiti?) people with an estimated competent QMS consultant population of under 15, and fewer than 250 total ISO 9001 certifications.

It is very easy to know which consultant worked with which company, and got them certified (or not - we identify the quacks pretty quickly, but the business community is not so lucky).

I have lived in a country of over 100 million and I appreciate the differences. I distinctly remember a Chinese friend laughing at me and saying that the population of my entire country was equivalent to a few blocks in his home city.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but the majority of posters I have noticed on the Cove are from the USA, China, India or UK - each with a soverign-state population many times the Caribbean, and do not have my frame of reference, or particular considerations.

 

[JaneB]

I prefer not to say, for a number of reasons,

Then it's perhaps not very helpful to provide advice, but then profess inability to explain it or clarify what it's based on, ie, why you say what you say?

Just saying 'oh this needs attention' without any kind of supporting information?

It's a public forum, where it's expected that people will provide reasonable data, grounds, etc. for advice, especially when someone requests that of them. I do.

 

[qualitymanager]

That's a fair statement. I would not accept a Nonconformity without objective (stated) evidence.

As I am uncomfortable supplying the relevant data, I will remove the unsubstantiated post.

 

[JeffOng]

qualitymanager,

good day.
thank you for the advise, hope you can share it... please, i'll wait for your PM.

 

[qualitymanager]

Check your PM.

I hope other Covers will answer, so there can be some benefit in your asking the question.

 

[Paul Simpson]

Here we go again!

Jeff,

Location 1 can be certified independently.
Location 2 can be certified idependently.
Location 1 + 2 can both be certified on one certificate.

Which way to go is a business decision.

Your Registrar/Certification Body customer service representative can explain how these scenarios could work including certification fees for each scenario.

Stijloor.

I know I should just let it go ... but I can't.

Why are we on the Cove recommending an organisation fragments its quality management system to allow for two certifications?

There are eight principles underpinning ISO 9001 in this case principally D) those of the process approach and systems approach to quality that encourage us all to look at the bigger picture - so how come we try to break things down?

Let's be sure about this - certification is not the be-all and end-all of quality. It is (at best) a by product of implementing an effective management system.