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TPMB4

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Well I reckon that approach would see me out the door here. They are very much quality focussed and it wouldn't take that much to tip the balance to the dole queue!!! I offer a ROI with that approach and that is my salary at the very least!!

Funny thing is, I'd still like to see it happen!! Even if it means me out of a job. Perverse that.

Anyone seen it happen? quality function being fully integrated or embedded into the organization that no separate quality function is needed??
 
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That is why I am taking a slow approach to revamping our quality manual - only necessary and small changes/updates until Sept. 2015 (I hope the 9001:2015 standard will be ready then!).
 
Wes Bucey

Wes Bucey

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Among all the suggestions, I lean toward Sidney's. I've written about Change Management numerous times here in the Cove and it's one of my "go to" presentations.

I also talk about incorporating Deming's SoPK (System of Profound Knowledge), but the kickstart to Change has to be a consensus of dissatisfaction with the status quo before outlining a remedy.

Some of the best and most successful changes I have witnessed have followed Sidney's suggestion of reinventing the organization, eliminating the silos of departments, and creating a culture of mutual help and support versus the "that's not my job" mentality found in so many organizations.

The one thing I caution is that Change is never a one person job. Regardless of the ultimate plan or who devised it, successful Change still requires getting buy in from the entire organization and overcoming pockets of resistance, preferably with logical or emotional persuasion, but sometimes with surgical excision.
 
Claes Gefvenberg

Claes Gefvenberg

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qpled said:
That is why I am taking a slow approach to revamping our quality manual - only necessary and small changes/updates until Sept. 2015 (I hope the 9001:2015 standard will be ready then!).
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As a matter of fact you may be able to chuck the manual in the shredder at that time, as there is no mention of a manual in the Comittee Draft for ISO 9001:2015.

/Claes
 
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Claes Gefvenberg said:
As a matter of fact you may be able to chuck the manual in the shredder at that time, as there is no mention of a manual in the Comittee Draft for ISO 9001:2015.

/Claes
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I should ask this elsewhere or read the relevant threads but if they go without a manual what is required either in its place or as the QMS documentation? I've not read up enough on the ISO 9001:2015 situation I know or I would know the answer but if anyone can let me know...
 
Stijloor

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TPMB4 said:
I should ask this elsewhere or read the relevant threads but if they go without a manual what is required either in its place or as the QMS documentation? I've not read up enough on the ISO 9001:2015 situation I know or I would know the answer but if anyone can let me know...
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It is not a requirement to include the QMS documented procedures in the Quality Manual. The option is include or reference to them.

So if the Quality Manual goes away, documents can be maintained regardless of the QM.

I will miss the QM though....;)
 
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Claes Gefvenberg

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TPMB4 said:
I should ask this elsewhere or read the relevant threads but if they go without a manual what is required either in its place or as the QMS documentation? I've not read up enough on the ISO 9001:2015 situation I know or I would know the answer but if anyone can let me know...
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Well... We will know for certain in 2015, but right now 4.2.1b and 4.2.2 from the current version appears to have gone missing, while the rest of 4.2 remains. Speaking for myself I'd just as well be rid of that particular piece of ballast, as it serves no useful purpose. On the other hand there is nothing to prevent those so inclined from keeping it.

/Claes
 
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