I have booked my Phase I (documentation audit, basically) Transition Audit

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Fire Girl

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Ok. It is official- I have booked my Phase I (doc audit, basically) Transition Audit. I think I am afraid to really start changing stuff over. I have done my Gap Analysis. For the most part I think my system is ok.

Can anyone who has actually gone thru this process please tell me it's going to be ok?!? How evil of an experience is this? Please help!

FG :confused: :ko: :confused: :ko:
 
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energy

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The same Registrar?

FG,

Are you using the same Registrar? If so, they have a vested interest in seeing you succeed. As you are already registered, it should go very well. Don't worry, be happy.

Not having been there, I have no answer about the transition. But Marc has posted about several transitions he was involved with and indicated they all went well with no major hiccups.

Marc had this posted in another thread about transitioning.

http://Elsmar.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=5053

Wait for the Fire, Girl.
 
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Jimmy Olson

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FG,

I am going through the same thing. My audit is coming up in October (just got the agenda today, it's covering everything).

I figured since we're both going through it we could bounce ideas off each other, or cry on each others shoulders. :vfunny:
 
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Aaron Lupo

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Re: I need a little push

Fire Girl said:

Ok. It is official- I have booked my Phase I (doc audit, basically) Transition Audit. I think I am afraid to really start changing stuff over. I have done my Gap Analysis. For the most part I think my system is ok.

Can anyone who has actually gone thru this process please tell me it's going to be ok?!? How evil of an experience is this? Please help!

FG :confused: :ko: :confused: :ko:
Fire you have reason to be worried you will more than likely get your cert. pulled after the changes you made!!

Fire I am kidding of course, if you are already 9K:94 certified/registered I doubt you will have any problems at all, maybe a bump here and a scratch there but it should be a smooth transition for you. Sit back relax and enjoy the fruits of your labor, you seem like a smart cookie!

I have actually audited companies (25-30) that transitioned from 94 to 2000 and they have all gone very well. Let us know how it turns out and good luck!!
 
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Ken K

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For the most part I think my system is ok.

Half the battle is won...you have confidence in your system.
The other half should be easier than when you first started
your 9K:94 journey.


Good luck! and be happy. :smokin:
 
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RosieA

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Hey Fire Girl,

I've been there and done that, and lived to wave my new cert in the air.

It wasn't bad. The hardest part is finding out how the Registrar interprets the words. But, as one of these threads here once mentioned, most quality people have anxiety disorders :bonk: so your concerns are simply in keeping with your professional profile .

Alfred E. Newman is not the patron saint of quality! ;)
 
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JLMorris

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RosieA
Had my first transition audit the other day and agree with you that it is important to be on the same wavelength as your registrar. I felt we had things more or less sorted, and then got a rough time when he took a different interpretation!
There were several of those 'where does it say we have to do that in the standard' moments, to which I got the reply 'it gives me something to audit against'!!! There were a number of other sticky moments, and we both came out somewhat bruised from the encounter.
Anyway at the end of this discouraging tale, good luck with the transition, keep up the good work

Nil carborundum
 
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Something to audit against'

There were several of those 'where does it say we have to do that in the standard' moments, to which I got the reply 'it gives me something to audit against'!!!
something to audit against' is not an acceptable response. My reply to the auditor would have been: "Try auditing against the standard."
 

Mike S.

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Excellent comeback, db!!! That auditor was off-base.

JL - Do you mind telling us what section(s) of the standard/interpretations you and the auditor disagreed on?

It sounds like the Cove could provide a valuable public service by posting customer satisfaction ratings of various registrars, but perhaps that would get Marc into some kind of trouble in today's litigous (sp?) society.
 
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