I have just purchased the all new Core Tools Software (CTS) from AIAG

[ncwalker]

Making a rabbit part is an excellent suggestion. A good concept is to have two databased. One for developement (where you can play around and sort out how stuff works) and one for production that has the real data.

You may find your test entries cannot be deleted.

 

[soriano21]

AIAG will offer a free webinar on 4-4-19, this is the information:

4/4/19 2:00 pm to 4/4/20 EST

Analysis of Risk: Using the New AIAG-VDA FMEA Process
Join us for a 60 minute webinar on the new AIAG-VDA FMEA Handbook! The AIAG program director for the project will present the new Six Step FMEA Process, updated form sheets and new Severity, Occurrence, Detection and Action Prioritization tables. He will also describe the approach that supports the alignment of ISO 26262 for Functional Safety and the FMEA process, the Supplemental FMEA for Monitoring and System Response. Finally, we will share AIAG and VDA’s training plans for the new handbook as well as known OEM plans for adoption, roll-out and customer specific requirements.

• Discusses new Six Step FMEA Process, updated form sheets, and new Severity, Occurrence, Detection and Action Prioritization tables.
• Describes Supplemental FMEA for Monitoring and System Response.
• Reviews known OEM adoption/roll-out plans for handbook including planned customer specific requirements.
• Communicates AIAG and VDA training plans for new handbook.

Please send to me a email to [email protected] to provide the website adreess for register on this webinar.
Regards

 

[wwhd]

I have just purchased the all new Core Tools Software (CTS) from AIAG. I want to use it to correlate all of the data in my current core tools documents. This product is not intuitive at all and I can't figure out how to get it to "work". Has anyone else tried to use it that can help get me started? (AIAG has no instructions or training available, I asked)

I totally agree. Their webinars have been completely superficial and have no "operations" value. There are no instructions/training available so far, but I do have their tech support info - as attached.

 

[wwhd]

Guys,

If anyone is able to provide a roadmap for making a PPAP in the new CTS software, I would appreciate that very much.

So far, I have manually added a few product families and parts to the "Parts" tab in CTS. Here are some problems I encountered:
- No import function available for Parts
- The attachments that can be attached within the part, are not in sync with the projects associated to it.
- The revision date for each part is technically the date you are creating the part profile and not the actual date you want to enter for the part drawing rev.
- No import available for control plans, process FMEAs, etc.
- No import function available for Customer/Supplier list

I also could not find the way to submit a PPAP (which has the PPAP approval status - approved, rejected, etc.) as mentioned in the first webinar from Oct 3. 2018.

Please let me know if anyone else is having the same issues or I am missing something.

Appreciate it.

- Karan

 

[Slim Pickins]

Well Karen, you are not missing anything, it isn't there! You and I are on the same path to nowhere. I have been hacking around and discovered that they only way to enter items is to create the part, then create a "project" about the part, and then go into the project and CTS view to enter data. I also know that regardless of what they said in the webinars, you cannot rearrange rows or columns. You can sort them, but I have been unable to determine how to best accomplish that. Also, the column headings are not in the same sequence as the forms in the AIAG APQP manual (look at control plan view) and they cannot be arranged correctly. I have contacted "support" twice but their answers are as clear as the software. I attached an excerpt below.

My intention was to upload all of my current documentation into this system and then proceed forward, but it looks more and more like all I did was waste $360 and a lot of time looking for what was "promised" in the webinars.

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QUESTIONS TO AIAG:
I am having a difficult time seeing the relationships/ flow of this product. Here are some more questions.
Have you begun, or are you aware of, a user’s blog for this product?
I am assuming that I am required to enter a part, then create a project, and then input data in the CTS view. I am currently trying to populate current data into the system but am having major difficulties.
CTS VIEW
How do I move lines in CTS view to put them in the correct order? (How do I add a line in the middle)
How do I move the column locations? (They don’t match the control plan layout defined in the APQP manual) I can move them by dragging, but it doesn’t save them and they revert back.
Yesterday the process step locked/linked to the operation Type and Operation Disc/Funct. (If I entered a 10 on two lines, the system reworded everything) today they are independent. Thoughts?
PART ENTRY
Location is “greyed out” so I can’t enter data. It won’t save a new part because location is mandatory. I rebooted but no luck. (It worked for one part, but not a second one)
How do I use two part numbers for the same part? (My number and the customers number)

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ANSWER FROM AIAG
We don't have a user's blog set up for AIAG CTS. You can always contact us by email [email protected] or call (226) 777 0144 for your technical queries. In addition to that we are planning to add site tour, that can be helpful for initial set up and guiding users through the system.
You are correct about the flow, part->project->cts view is required path.
CTS
1. The functionality is not implemented to change rows/lines, you can sort and filter them to get desired arrangement.
2. That's right the columns are keeping the same position on returning on the page and not saving the previous arrangement, we are working on it and should be available soon
3. Options for Entering Operations (Process Step, Ops Type, and Ops Description/Function) in CTS View

• Lookup Entry via Process Step. To use the lookup selection method, click the Process Step dropdown menu and select desired option from the list. The list shown is based on values entered at the Part Detail record associated with this Project or via the Reusable Library (Admin section). Once added, you can then freely modify the entry to create a custom entry. This entry will not update the Part Detail or Reusable Library records.
• Direct Entry. You also have the option to directly enter Process Step, Operation Type, and Operation Desc./Func. information to the CTS View. It is not required to use the lookup method.

Part entry
1. Make sure you add location in the admin panel first to have list available when creating a part
2. Two parts can have the same part number and it will save it successfully since the system is using another set of ids to save parts. You can define your own rules to differentiate between two parts in the number itself.

 

[wwhd]

Well Karen, you are not missing anything, it isn't there! You and I are on the same path to nowhere. I have been hacking around and discovered that they only way to enter items is to create the part, then create a "project" about the part, and then go into the project and CTS view to enter data. I also know that regardless of what they said in the webinars, you cannot rearrange rows or columns. You can sort them, but I have been unable to determine how to best accomplish that. Also, the column headings are not in the same sequence as the forms in the AIAG APQP manual (look at control plan view) and they cannot be arranged correctly. I have contacted "support" twice but their answers are as clear as the software. I attached an excerpt below.

My intention was to upload all of my current documentation into this system and then proceed forward, but it looks more and more like all I did was waste $360 and a lot of time looking for what was "promised" in the webinars.

***************************************************************
QUESTIONS TO AIAG:
I am having a difficult time seeing the relationships/ flow of this product. Here are some more questions.
Have you begun, or are you aware of, a user’s blog for this product?
I am assuming that I am required to enter a part, then create a project, and then input data in the CTS view. I am currently trying to populate current data into the system but am having major difficulties.
CTS VIEW
How do I move lines in CTS view to put them in the correct order? (How do I add a line in the middle)
How do I move the column locations? (They don’t match the control plan layout defined in the APQP manual) I can move them by dragging, but it doesn’t save them and they revert back.
Yesterday the process step locked/linked to the operation Type and Operation Disc/Funct. (If I entered a 10 on two lines, the system reworded everything) today they are independent. Thoughts?
PART ENTRY
Location is “greyed out” so I can’t enter data. It won’t save a new part because location is mandatory. I rebooted but no luck. (It worked for one part, but not a second one)
How do I use two part numbers for the same part? (My number and the customers number)

********************************************************************
ANSWER FROM AIAG
We don't have a user's blog set up for AIAG CTS. You can always contact us by email [email protected] or call (226) 777 0144 for your technical queries. In addition to that we are planning to add site tour, that can be helpful for initial set up and guiding users through the system.
You are correct about the flow, part->project->cts view is required path.
CTS
1. The functionality is not implemented to change rows/lines, you can sort and filter them to get desired arrangement.
2. That's right the columns are keeping the same position on returning on the page and not saving the previous arrangement, we are working on it and should be available soon
3. Options for Entering Operations (Process Step, Ops Type, and Ops Description/Function) in CTS View

• Lookup Entry via Process Step. To use the lookup selection method, click the Process Step dropdown menu and select desired option from the list. The list shown is based on values entered at the Part Detail record associated with this Project or via the Reusable Library (Admin section). Once added, you can then freely modify the entry to create a custom entry. This entry will not update the Part Detail or Reusable Library records.
• Direct Entry. You also have the option to directly enter Process Step, Operation Type, and Operation Desc./Func. information to the CTS View. It is not required to use the lookup method.

Part entry
1. Make sure you add location in the admin panel first to have list available when creating a part
2. Two parts can have the same part number and it will save it successfully since the system is using another set of ids to save parts. You can define your own rules to differentiate between two parts in the number itself.

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Its *Karan.

And If it makes you feel any better, I wasted $1800.

I had a meeting with their tech support and project managers, and have realized that the root cause of all problems is the principal difference between what they said they'd offer, and what they are actually offering.

They said they'd offer a service which would help build PPAPs, but neither can it build PPAPs, nor can it submit them.

I have come up with a few Must Haves for their software development team for us to yield any value off it.
1. Add “Import” function for parts list, control plans, process flows, PFMEAs, customers/suppliers, etc.
2. Create links between parts, their projects, and documents involved in their projects
3. Enable previewing & editing of documents within CTS software
4. Fix “Date of Revision” problem
5. Within-CTS software emailing capability for PPAP submission
6. Duplicate function for existing projects so that same projects/PPAPs can be used for multiple customers

Other than these, there are other features that will help too:
1. Automated tracking of time and due dates to avoid manipulation and enable better metrics
2. Email notifications and Escalation notifications for projects approaching and past due date
3. Detailed metrics for late submissions and agent productivity

 

[Slim Pickins]

Sorry!! My sister is Karen and I went right to it without looking.

 

[wwhd]

Sorry!! My sister is Karen and I went right to it without looking.

No problem, Haha.

Hopefully they come up with a solution or I'm asking for a refund because even if they agree to develop all those features, the lead time on those would at least be 4 months

 

[Slim Pickins]

I cant believe that their "group of volunteers" didn't call all of this out. It was amazing to me the number of issues I found within the small amount of advancement I made in the process of attempting to use it. It is also amazing that other than this thread, I see nothing else about it on the web other than AIAG touting how awesome it is.

 

[UncleFester]

Perhaps someone can create a thread in the cove for self-help in using the software.

Like some new releases, the real bug fixes rely on the users to feedback issues encountered.

I wonder how many users will renew their purchase every year?