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Ted - In a word No - in two words - no suggestins.
For sake of explaination my thoughts run this way :
Although you may be "independant of the day to day physical activities" - the way I'm reading this is that you can NOT be independant of the planning or "decisions made" for many overall system activities as the Corporate Quality manager (and I'm assuming Corporate Management Representative.)
As such you "are responsible" for ensuring processes are established and in place "implemented and maintained."
Possibly you would agree that there remains a certain amount of ISO system "work" involved with this activity??
My opinion only - If the MR makes the decision that a process is indeed needed - plans the steps and makes sure it is implemented as he/she envisioned - continues to "direct and asvise" on the use of the process - then he/she can not be removed and be "objectivley independant" of its maintainance or its operation. (however good at "directing and advising" ie delegating Tasks one might be)
8.2.2
Auditors SHALL not audit their own "work"
For sake of explaination my thoughts run this way :
Although you may be "independant of the day to day physical activities" - the way I'm reading this is that you can NOT be independant of the planning or "decisions made" for many overall system activities as the Corporate Quality manager (and I'm assuming Corporate Management Representative.)
As such you "are responsible" for ensuring processes are established and in place "implemented and maintained."
Possibly you would agree that there remains a certain amount of ISO system "work" involved with this activity??
My opinion only - If the MR makes the decision that a process is indeed needed - plans the steps and makes sure it is implemented as he/she envisioned - continues to "direct and asvise" on the use of the process - then he/she can not be removed and be "objectivley independant" of its maintainance or its operation. (however good at "directing and advising" ie delegating Tasks one might be)
8.2.2
Auditors SHALL not audit their own "work"

