IAB and ANAB - Differences between these accreditation schemes?

Sidney Vianna

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UKAS is also dealing with unauthorized usage of their accreditation mark...
http://www.iaar.org/ said:
UKAS has been alerted to a webpage on the internet from a certification body that appears to be trying to pass itself off in place of a genuine UKAS accredited certification body, and claiming that it is UKAS accredited. The webpage in question is from QA Certification, (http://www.qacertification.co.uk/home.asp). It appears to be trying to mimic the certification business run by Mr. Alf Duffield of QA International Certification Ltd, which is UKAS accredited. The genuine website can be located at http://www.qai.co.uk/.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]UKAS can confirm that QA Certification is not, and has not been, accredited by UKAS. As you can see in the linked web page, QA Certification is also displaying unauthorised UKAS symbols. UKAS is in the process of taking action to prevent this unauthorised and improper use of these symbols. If anyone has any further evidence of the improper use of the UKAS symbol/certificates issued by this body claiming to be accredited by UKAS, we would welcome details.

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Turk 182

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Yesterday I was gleeful to learn that I had found a registrar with a price range that really seemed competitive. After reading this thread, I feel like I'm back at square one. I can say, however, that I now know much more about accreditation bodies as they pertain to registrars. Now my question to all of you: "Who, in your opinion, is the most cost effective, ANAB accredited registrar?"

P.S. I was leaning towards Verisys yesterday.
 

Randy

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Yesterday I was gleeful to learn that I had found a registrar with a price range that really seemed competitive. After reading this thread, I feel like I'm back at square one. I can say, however, that I now know much more about accreditation bodies as they pertain to registrars. Now my question to all of you: "Who, in your opinion, is the most cost effective, ANAB accredited registrar?"

P.S. I was leaning towards Verisys yesterday.
Is that a direct question?

If it is, I'd like to submit to you BSI Management Systems.

Remember, cost effective is not necessarily the least expensive.

Or you can pick one of the also rans.:notme:

Comments Sid?:lol:
 

Helmut Jilling

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Yesterday I was gleeful to learn that I had found a registrar with a price range that really seemed competitive. After reading this thread, I feel like I'm back at square one. I can say, however, that I now know much more about accreditation bodies as they pertain to registrars. Now my question to all of you: "Who, in your opinion, is the most cost effective, ANAB accredited registrar?"

P.S. I was leaning towards Verisys yesterday.

What is the cheapest working truck available on the market? Is it the one with the lowest MSRP purchase price? The one with the lowest lease payment? The one with the higher price, but lower total cost per mile? The one that can carry the largest payload?

The question you ask is wrong out of the gate, because it is looking at the equation backwards. Perhaps the more expensive ones are actually cheaper if they provide a greater value and benefit than the cost.
 

Randy

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Me? Comments? If you insist....:tg:. To ask what is the cheapest most cost effective ANAB accredited CB is like asking what is the best car in the market. I offer an article by ANAB's director which I posted here. Makes for interesting reading, IMNSHO.

Cheers.

You're right. Not knowing whether you would have objected or not I was going to let you give Turk 182 a suggestion or 2 yourself as to who he could use;)

You probably hear from people you meet (just like I do and maybe some of the others here that work for CB's do as well) some of the not so nice stories that come from using "the most cost effective...AKA least expensive" provider of services. It's hard to convince folks that "expense" is not the same as "cost".

To be very honest with Turk I'd have to tell him that I really couldn't tell him who is the most cost effective in the industry and that most likely nobody else can either. Day rates vary, as do the other things that can be charged for. It's a krap shoot of sorts I guess for everyone concerned.

Hey Turk! Good luck there buddy. If you find out, let us know.
 
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Turk 182

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Ok, OK... I knew that this was going to be the reply, so I re-submit my question. (Hopefully without throwing us into another thread category).

"Which registrar did you go with? Any regrets?"
 

Sidney Vianna

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Looks like the number of counterfeit certificates is on the rise. On ANAB's website they have added other recent cases:
B.R. Apartments (P) Ltd. of Vaishali, Ghaziabad, Uttar Pradesh, India, is not certified by CRS Registrars, Inc., and has used the marks of CRS Registrars and the ANSI-RAB NAP (predecessor of ANAB) without authorization.

Whales of Shanghai, China, is not certified by ABS Quality Evaluations, Inc., and has used the marks of ABS Quality Evaluations and ANAB inappropriately and without authorization. ABS Quality Evaluations has informed the appropriate governmental body in China (CNCA) of this issue.
But it is sad that a certificate which carries their logo, allegedly unauthorized, is still publicly posted and available on-line, after all this time. Where is the enforcement when you need it? Check it out!
 

Stijloor

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Looks like the number of counterfeit certificates is on the rise. On ANAB's website they have added other recent cases: But it is sad that a certificate which carries their logo, allegedly unauthorized, is still publicly posted and available on-line, after all this time. Where is the enforcement when you need it? Check it out!
Hello Sidney,

This was a response/article that I found when "googling":
http://www.qsuonline.com/BodyPages/Enews/QSUCurrent5/EJV13I5QSU6.html

If this link is posted somewhere before, I apologize....

Stijloor.
 
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