IATF 16949: 2016 and ISO 9001:2015 - How Similar Are They?

[GStough]

In order to be certified to IATF 16949 you must also meet all of the requirements of ISO 9001.

During an IATF audit you can receive a nonconformance for not meeting ISO 9001 requirements.

Good to know....thanks!!

 

[Golfman25]

Yep. IATF uses 9001 as a base and then goes up from there. So an IATF company will have every applicable 9001 clause covered, as well as the additional requirements for IATF.

For example, 9001 doesn't require a quality manual. IATF does.

Or consider competence. 9001 is very general and says nothing specific about auditors. IAFT has very specific requirements regarding auditor competency.

 

[Nedap]

The easiest way to understand the difference of ISO-9001:2015 and IATF-16949:2016 is that ISO-9001 is the main Quality Management Systems standard for any type of manufacturing. IATF-16949 is additional requirement of the Automotive Industry. If you are a Tier I Automotive supplier, you are required to have IATF-16949:2016 which includes ISO-9001:2015.

 

[ncwalker]

Have you looked at IATF 16949? You could not audit that alone, it would make no sense. It is additional rules, and it needs the main rules to function.

ISO9001 is a set of rules that defines a healthy, functioning QMS in ANY process organization. (I did not say manufacturing, one of the main reasons for the big release change is they want to start using it in the medical service industry, ergo a lot of the manufacturing language in it has been replaced).

Anyway, ISO9001 is the baseline.

Then the International Automotive Task Force (IATF) said "Well, this is a good start, but OUR industry has a few nuances in it that ALSO should be done ..." and that is what is in IATF 16949. Other types of industries have different riders.

All of them are set up in this way: Do everything that ISO9001 says, but then ALSO do this additional stuff.

 

[AndyN]

Have you looked at IATF 16949? You could not audit that alone, it would make no sense. It is additional rules, and it needs the main rules to function.

ISO9001 is a set of rules that defines a healthy, functioning QMS in ANY process organization. (I did not say manufacturing, one of the main reasons for the big release change is they want to start using it in the medical service industry, ergo a lot of the manufacturing language in it has been replaced).

Anyway, ISO9001 is the baseline.

Then the International Automotive Task Force (IATF) said "Well, this is a good start, but OUR industry has a few nuances in it that ALSO should be done ..." and that is what is in IATF 16949. Other types of industries have different riders.

All of them are set up in this way: Do everything that ISO9001 says, but then ALSO do this additional stuff.

It's not appropriate to call them "rules". They are requirements. Documented information control is a requirement. Not making hand made changes to documents is a rule which is part of an organization who are implementing a documented information requirement to meet ISO 9001.

 

[ncwalker]

AndyN is exactly right. They are requirements. Different from rules.