Dear Elsmar Mates,
From my past company experiences, whenever First off parts are checked by either Quality or Production associates there is always a supervisor sign off whether these checks are being performed. My new organization at one of the plants, only performs check by Operator and no supervisor signs off on the check made by Operator.
8.5.1.3 Verification of job set-ups
a) verify job set-ups when performed, such as an initial run of a job, material changeover, or job
change that requires a new set-up;
d) perform first-off/last-off part validation, as applicable; where appropriate,
Does that mean twice check/verification is needed? I was given an explanation that Auditor never had an issue with just operator checking and no supervisor sign off at Setup and First off check. And I couldn't write anything up as it has "As applicable" written in 8.5.1.3 d). I still think I can push the issue for additional supervisor sign based on 8.5.1.3 a). Considering Registrar auditor gave it a go without supervisor sign/ verification sign, I need additional inputs to cause a change if it's needed as next Registrar auditor may not give it a go.
From my past company experiences, whenever First off parts are checked by either Quality or Production associates there is always a supervisor sign off whether these checks are being performed. My new organization at one of the plants, only performs check by Operator and no supervisor signs off on the check made by Operator.
8.5.1.3 Verification of job set-ups
a) verify job set-ups when performed, such as an initial run of a job, material changeover, or job
change that requires a new set-up;
d) perform first-off/last-off part validation, as applicable; where appropriate,
Does that mean twice check/verification is needed? I was given an explanation that Auditor never had an issue with just operator checking and no supervisor sign off at Setup and First off check. And I couldn't write anything up as it has "As applicable" written in 8.5.1.3 d). I still think I can push the issue for additional supervisor sign based on 8.5.1.3 a). Considering Registrar auditor gave it a go without supervisor sign/ verification sign, I need additional inputs to cause a change if it's needed as next Registrar auditor may not give it a go.