IATF 16949 - Different Registrars for remote and manufacturing sites?

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I am looking to change registrars for IATF16949. Does anyone know if is it possible to have different registrars for remote sites versus the manufacturing sites? I don't have time to reschedule the remote site but I do have time for the manufacturing site. I am trying to avoid multiple audits if possible for the change.
 

Sidney Vianna

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As far as I know, IF the remote sites are audited (not necessarily certified, as support sites can not attain IATF 16949 certification) by an IATF qualified CB, with an IATF qualified auditor, and the audit report shows an appropriate SCOPE of audit and results, supporting the (certified) manufacturing site, you can have different CB's.

The CB working with the manufacturing site has to ascertain the support sites have the processes in conformance with the applicable IATF 16949 requirements. If that can be accomplished via another CB's audits and reports, why not?
 

Howard Atkins

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You need to talk and agree with your nee CB as he needs to agree as in the rules below

From the rules
5.5 Supporting activities
Supporting functions on site or remote {e.g., product design, contract review, purchasing, warehouse, etc shall be audited as required to support a site but shall be included in the initial stage 2 audit, at least once more during the surveillance audit cycle and at the recertification audit- The only exception is that clients with product design responsibility shall have their design function{s}, on site or remote, audited at least once within each consecutive twelve {12} month period-
When planning the initial stage 2 audit, the remote supporting function shall be audited prior to the site.
Additional audits of remote supporting functions may be necessary based upon their demonstrated performance as seen at the site{s} they support.
The certification body shall document how the days are distributed between the site{s} and any supporting functions on site or remote.
In situations where remote supporting functions support many sites and these sites are audited by more than one certification body, the client has two options:
Option 1: each certification body may audit the remote supporting location(s}.

Option 2: a certification body may accept the audit by another certification body of the remote
supporting locations subject to the following conditions being met prior to each audit:
1} the audit was conducted to IATF 16949 by an IATF-recognized certification body;
2} the audit covered the complete product scope of those functions, consistent with the
process-based audit approach;
5} the client provides to the certification body, prior to the audit, a copy of the audit plan,
audit report, all findings, all corrective actions, and all verification actions by the other
certification body. This information shall be in the language agreed between the
client and the certification body;
4} the information confirms that all the interfaces between the remote supporting
location and the site were audited by the other certification body;
5} verification of the client's corrective actions are conducted by the certification body
that audited the remote supporting location. Copies of all onsite verification activities
reports shall be provided by the client to the certification body-
When the conditions for Option 2 cannot be met, the certification body shall notify the client and go back to Option 1-
 
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