IATF 16949 Supplier selection criteria 8.4.1.2

Sambasi

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#1
Clause " 8.4.1.2 Supplier Selection Process" says
The selection process shall include:
(a) an assessment of the selected supplier's risk to product conformity and uninterrupted supply of the organization's product to its customers.
(b) relevant quality and delivery performance.
(c) an evaluation of the supplier's quality management system.
(d) multidisciplinary decision making.
(e) an assessment of software development capabilities, if applicable.

Now my questions
(1) This is applicable to New suppliers. But how about "approved suppliers" who are doing business with the organization for a long time. How to comply with this clause for the approved suppliers?
(2) How about Stockists / agencies who supply materials to the organization?
(3) Please explain 8.4.1.2 (d) What is Multidisciplinary decision making

Thanks

Sambasi
 
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AMIT BALLAL

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#2
Following are my answers to your questions:

Question-1:
Yes, this is generally applicable to new suppliers. However, you'll need to re-evaluate suppliers at a decided frequency to ensure they meet your selection criteria. And since the requirement is new as compared to TS16949, you'll need to demonstrate that the requirements of IATF16949 are met. You'll need to comply with this requirement even if suppliers are old.

Question-2:
Clause 8.4.1 asks to determine controls to be applied over suppliers. Your organization can determine which controls apply to which suppliers and which don't (E.g. Supplier audits, supplier performance monitoring, etc.).


Question-3:
Multi-disciplinary means people from various functions (E.g. Purchasing, Quality, Engineering, etc.) should be included in supplier selection. Multi-disciplinary Team (MDT) is also known by term Cross-Functional Team (CFT).
 
#4
Do you have an example of how this questionair should/would be set up. We have one but it is generic and is only set up to meet our companies requirements per (ISO 9001). I am tyring to figure out how to incorporate the IATF requirements into this and how to "ask the question" on the Supplier Selection survey?
 

optomist1

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#5
Hi Sambasi,

speaking from expeirence on both sides of the fence (OEM Adv SQ and a Tier 1 PM)...for true new suppliers, we executed an in depth initial supplier eligiability assessment, for established suppliers annual audits were performed. And to be certain much of the evaluation criteria were the same or similar, but there were differences. It was very detailed, and results, action items/open isues were continually tracked for progress and close out. hope this helps...
optomist1
 

morteza

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#6
Clause " 8.4.1.2 Supplier Selection Process" says
The selection process shall include:
(a) an assessment of the selected supplier's risk to product conformity and uninterrupted supply of the organization's product to its customers.
(b) relevant quality and delivery performance.
(c) an evaluation of the supplier's quality management system.
(d) multidisciplinary decision making.
(e) an assessment of software development capabilities, if applicable.

Now my questions
(1) This is applicable to New suppliers. But how about "approved suppliers" who are doing business with the organization for a long time. How to comply with this clause for the approved suppliers?
(2) How about Stockists / agencies who supply materials to the organization?
(3) Please explain 8.4.1.2 (d) What is Multidisciplinary decision making

Thanks

Sambasi
Hi

One of the most problems of the IATF 16949 requirements under clause 8.4, is that the requirements scopes are not clear.
for your questions:

1- The scope of the clause 8.4.1.2 is only "supplier selection" process. So, this clause is apply only on new suppliers, not the old suppliers. Old suppliers are monitored based on clause 8.4.2.4 and 8.4.2.4.1 and their re-evaluation is not necessary to meet the requirements of clause 8.4.1.2.

2- If the suppliers provide raw material for your company which incorporated in your product , it would be included in the scope of clause 8.4.2.1.

3- Multidisciplinary decision making (as defined in AMIT post), would warrant the best selection of a supplier. Without the multidisciplinary decision making, it may the supplier be selected only based on the price without considering its other capabilities.
 
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